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King Tut
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Sep 18, 2017
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Citrus Heights
· Joined Aug 2012
· Points: 430
I would add: 4. Rope management. Flake out the rope(s) completely before the start and have it/them properly stacked and in your control at every belay afterwards. A loop of rope snagging out of reach has hosed many, many leaders and rappellers etc etc...You must make the effort to prevent such epics occurring or they will, at the worst time.
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Alan Searcy
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Sep 18, 2017
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Pine, Colorado
· Joined May 2003
· Points: 395
Interesting question, what three things would I emphasize to some new climbers? Hmmm. #1 Climb with experienced people, follow and clean a lot of their gear placements #2 Your gear is your life, inspect it before you use it and retire it when it's suspect, not just when you can afford it. #3 Equalized Redundancy in your anchors. I'd also tell them to always pack two headlamps, either yours or your partner's will always die just when you need it most. Place gear from good stances, wear your helmet and plan how you will retreat (run away) when the thunder gods appear. ALWAYS listen to that little voice inside you (it's rarely wrong). If you tend to hear many voices, ice climbing is for you.
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David K
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Sep 18, 2017
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The Road, Sometimes Chattan…
· Joined Jan 2017
· Points: 423
- The dangers of microfractures
- The tying of a PAS thong
- The versatility of cowbells
Come at me
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DavisMeschke Guillotine
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Sep 19, 2017
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Pinedale, WY
· Joined Oct 2013
· Points: 225
1. Wear your fucking helmet. 2. Be efficient, but not at the expense of your safety. 3. That mountain will always be there.
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Nick Sweeney
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Sep 19, 2017
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Spokane, WA
· Joined Jun 2013
· Points: 969
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Kees van der Heiden
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Sep 19, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Oct 2016
· Points: 40
I don't do top 3's or top 10's or whatever. Sounds like a magazine article to me. I learn them what they need to learn to the best of my ability.
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Ian Lauer
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Sep 19, 2017
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Yakima, WA
· Joined Jan 2014
· Points: 15
Don't be stupid This was the moto at my high school outdoor program and it is the first and only advice you need In all seriousness Know your knots (fig 8, munter, and prusik can pretty much do everything, maybe throw in clove hitch) Know your partner (and keep them safe) TIE KNOTS IN THE END OF YOUR ROPES
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Dakota R
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Sep 19, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Mar 2016
· Points: 0
1. Rock Climbing is Inherently Dangerous 2. It is everyone's job to manage their own risk but also speak up if you have any questions or concerns about things you or anyone around you is doing. 3. Everyone is here because they get something out of it in some way shape or form, we're all still learning, so have some fun!
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RandyLee
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Sep 19, 2017
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On the road
· Joined May 2016
· Points: 246
How many beers to drink before belaying strangers. Just how loud they need to yell at Tahquitz. Preferably with demonstrations / competitions. How to set up top ropes through fixed gear. If I'm feeling extra spicy, I'll teach them how to place one piece of gear - the pink tricam.
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David K
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Sep 19, 2017
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The Road, Sometimes Chattan…
· Joined Jan 2017
· Points: 423
RandyLee wrote:If I'm feeling extra spicy, I'll teach them how to place one piece of gear - the pink tricam. Whoa whoa whoa. Too dangerous! We're talking about new climbers, and that's advanced magic.
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David Gibbs
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Sep 19, 2017
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Ottawa, ON
· Joined Aug 2010
· Points: 2
David Kerkeslager wrote:Whoa whoa whoa. Too dangerous! We're talking about new climbers, and that's advanced magic. No, advanced magic is how to clean a pink tricam. :)
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eli poss
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Sep 19, 2017
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Durango, CO
· Joined May 2014
· Points: 525
DavisMeschke Guillotine wrote:3. That mountain will always be there. Why do you climb? Because it's there -George Mallory Because it may not always be there - Layton Kor It won't always be there. Just ask The Cobra or that one pitch on Half Dome
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kingfisher
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Sep 19, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Aug 2017
· Points: 0
BASIC WILDERNESS ETHICS! Too many new climbers roll out of the gym and trash crags, cut trails, shit at the crag, etc...
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IcePick
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Sep 19, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jun 2017
· Points: 100
Jake Jones wrote:Kind of a loaded question. Are we talking day 1 beginners here, or is it assumed that these people have a modicum of understanding of climbing already? Beginners. Newbs. Gumbies.
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kmyee
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Sep 19, 2017
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Los Angeles, CA
· Joined Jan 2014
· Points: 16
1. Learn to communicate efficiently with your partner. Agree on what commands you'll use. Yelling "WHAT???" as loudly as you can is NOT a valid form of communication (unless at Tahquitz/Suicide, then perfectly ok). 2. Tape won't help you hand jam better. #HTFU 3. Brush off your fucking TICK MARKS when you're done. Yes, all of them. Even the feet. Brush the holds while you're at it.
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caesar.salad
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Sep 19, 2017
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earth
· Joined Dec 2012
· Points: 75
kmyee wrote:3. Brush off your fucking TICK MARKS when you're done. Yes, all of them. Even the feet. Brush the holds while you're at it. this a million times
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Andrew Krajnik
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Sep 19, 2017
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Plainfield, IL
· Joined Jul 2016
· Points: 1,739
David Gibbs wrote:No, advanced magic is how to clean a pink tricam. :) Is that a euphemism?
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M Hanna
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Sep 19, 2017
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Seattle, WA
· Joined Apr 2015
· Points: 5
1: Cleaning small Lowe Ballz #Don'tFixMyBallz 2: Cleaning Tricams #YouFixedMyPinkie 3: Hold on to the Fiddlefookin Rope #FallingFallingFalling There ya go Sorry.... these may be advanced skills but nonetheless fairly important MH
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Patrik
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Sep 20, 2017
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Third rock from Sun
· Joined Jun 2010
· Points: 30
1. The importance of selecting the right rope diameter. Various diameters less than 10.2mm requires very specific belay devices. Anything larger than 11mm can be trampled upon. By dogs with crampons. A not-so-subtle hint at the end of this discussion invariably leads to the beginner buying a new rope before we head out next time. 2. The intricate aspects of the revolutionary sliding-X and how this ultimately led to the development of PAS and cordelettes. Both of which is needed as a second. Both of which need to be at least 26ft. Both of which the beginner shall buy before we team up again. 3. The ethics of climbing: The beginner always carry the gear to the crag. The beginner always bring/buy post-climbing beer. 4. How I want my nuts cleaned.
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Pavel Burov
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Sep 20, 2017
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Russia
· Joined May 2013
· Points: 50
1. Climbing is dangerous. There is no safe way to climb. 2. Do never blindly trust any source of climbing related information. E.g., do not blindly trust me. 3. Climb for yorself. Not for your ego.
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