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Wiled Horse
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Aug 25, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Dec 2002
· Points: 3,669
Just a thought. Maybe less lowering/dropped climber accidents.
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Lena chita
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Aug 25, 2017
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OH
· Joined Mar 2011
· Points: 1,667
Darren Mabe wrote:Just a thought. Maybe less lowering/dropped climber accidents. Only in a sense that people would be dropping themselves, and not someone else...
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Wiled Horse
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Aug 25, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Dec 2002
· Points: 3,669
Ya think? In general how many of you learned how to rappel before you belayed? Like with an ATC or 8 device or something?
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Seth Monteleone
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Aug 25, 2017
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Charlotte, NC
· Joined Dec 2016
· Points: 51
I learned how to lead belay first and then immediately after on the next climb, I had to learn how to rap as my partner yelled at me from the ground, all with an ATC, but I get the feeling that this is not normal?
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Joshua Dee
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Aug 25, 2017
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San Diego, CA
· Joined Oct 2015
· Points: 30
Or throw it away and get an ATC guide
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Abram Herman
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Aug 25, 2017
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Grand Junction, CO
· Joined May 2009
· Points: 20
Joshua Dee wrote:Or throw it away and get an ATC guide I'll take "Things Luddites Say" for $500, Mr. Trebek! ;-)
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Wiled Horse
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Aug 25, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
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· Points: 3,669
Joshua Dee wrote:Or throw it away and get an ATC guide That wont help with grigri technique though?!
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BrokenChairs 88
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Aug 25, 2017
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Denver, CO
· Joined Feb 2015
· Points: 240
Lena chita wrote:Only in a sense that people would be dropping themselves, and not someone else... One of the best MP comments I've read; nice work Lena!
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Wiled Horse
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Aug 25, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
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· Points: 3,669
BrokenChairs wrote:One of the best MP comments I've read; nice work Lena! Thats part of the point of the post. How many rappelling have dropped themselves?
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Wiled Horse
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Aug 25, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Dec 2002
· Points: 3,669
Grigris are not a fuckin rubik's cube
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Josh Gates
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Aug 25, 2017
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Wilmington, DE
· Joined Mar 2017
· Points: 4
Darren Mabe wrote:Grigris are not a fuckin rubik's cube Totally. Nobody's ever killed themselves or somebody else using a Rubik's cube.
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Joshua Dee
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Aug 25, 2017
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San Diego, CA
· Joined Oct 2015
· Points: 30
Abram Herman wrote:I'll take "Things Luddites Say" for $500, Mr. Trebek! ;-) Maybe, but not needing a to coordinate a simurappel is nice too
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Wiled Horse
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Aug 25, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Dec 2002
· Points: 3,669
Josh Gates wrote:Totally. Nobody's ever killed themselves or somebody else using a Rubik's cube. Yeah that would be painful
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chris blatchley
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Aug 25, 2017
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woodinville, wa
· Joined Sep 2016
· Points: 6
Joshua Dee wrote:Maybe, but not needing a to coordinate a simurappel is nice too I just spent all weekend rapping on a grigri, and my partner with an atc guide. just biner block. easy
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Abram Herman
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Aug 25, 2017
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Grand Junction, CO
· Joined May 2009
· Points: 20
Joshua Dee wrote:Maybe, but not needing a to coordinate a simurappel is nice too Oh, totally—I 100% agree with using an ATC for actual rappelling, there are very few cases where simul-rappelling is the better alternative. I don't think that's what OP is advocating though, he's just saying that maybe a good way for people to learn to use a grigri for belaying is to learn its feel on a fixed line rappel. I'm refraining from weighing in on that. I guess I read your comment as not specific to rappelling, but that you were sayingan ATC is always better than a grigri, which is a position many people seem to hold, and which I definitely don't agree with. If that's not what you meant, though, I apologize for misconstruing your comment!
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Wiled Horse
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Aug 25, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Dec 2002
· Points: 3,669
Abram Herman wrote:...he's just saying that maybe a good way for people to learn to use a grigri for belaying is to learn its feel on a fixed line rappel. Ding
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