Petzl Djinn Steel Axess Quickdraw

So I found a set of these on Amazon and I'm curious are these good 

For projecting sport routes they are a good deal. I'm not really sure why you think a carabiner that has had fairly extensive reviews with a mallion and the standard sling attached is worth a new thread.

Ok thank u

that guy named seb wrote:

I'm not really sure why you think a carabiner that has had fairly extensive reviews with a mallion and the standard sling attached is worth a new thread.

 I would say that is a bit over critical. 

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/112101981/finally-finished-solo-video-edit

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/112111572/what-totem-cam-to-get

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/112101831/a-tragic-foot-slip

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/112362875/racking-like-a-pro

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/111922184/beer-attachment-system

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/111937159/celebrity-gossip-kevin-jorgesson-using-la-sportiva

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/111927483/how-comfortable-are-you-at-your-max-solo-grade

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/111883490/new-harness-no-longer-accentuates-my-bulge

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/111826013/best-house-for-ice

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/111686580/ondras-poor-bolt-placement

that guy named seb wrote:

For projecting sport routes they are a good deal. I'm not really sure why you think a carabiner that has had fairly extensive reviews with a mallion and the standard sling attached is worth a new thread.

Damn, talk about a real downer.

GrumpyCat wrote:

Damn, talk about a real downer.

The mallion doesn't add or take away anything, nothing is functionally different apart from it being made out of steel (more durable) the gate is even still made from aluminum so the clipping and feel in the hand is the same. 

My point is proven by a quick google search:

http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/Quickdraw-Reviews/Petzl-Djinn-Axess

http://squamishclimbingmagazine.ca/gear-review-petzl-djinn-axess-quickdraw/

http://www.splitterchoss.com/2014/07/17/petzl-djinn-axess-quickdraw-review/

https://nextadventure.net/blog/gear-review-petzl-djinn-quickdraw/

http://www.rockandice.com/quickdraw-review/petzl-djinn-axess-quickdraw

That's page 1 on google and reviews continue on page 2 and there's even a reddit post about on page 3, so why make a new thread about something that has huge amounts of information out there on it already, even if you don't want to leave the wonderful world of MP there's a post on here specifically about the djinn vs the spirit and another thread talking about projecting draws with several people vouching for the steel Djinn.

that guy named seb wrote:

For projecting sport routes they are a good deal. I'm not really sure why you think a carabiner that has had fairly extensive reviews with a mallion and the standard sling attached is worth a new thread.

Who made this dick the forum police? 

Waylon Griffith wrote:

Who made this dick the forum police? 

He's been trying to do it for a while.

Dunno about no Djinn's, but I know someone suggested getting one of these to use for the first draw on sport routes - https://www.backcountry.com/trango-blue-steel-quickdraw - and it's one of those mini-optimizations that's not necessary, but I like.

Dudes in the 70s probably went climbing with a rack of like 30+ steel draws. Hard men, they were, for sure.

I have a set of those Trango draws that Sean mentions for anchor draws....not horrifically heavy, and worthwhile to not have the wear on the anchor draws be as substantial as it can be.  Rack in the back and bam, no big deal.  

I also use the Trango React quickdraw as a primary set and they kick ass.  Have been pleasantly surprised by the durability and quality of their product....comparable, imo, to the djinn and spirit draws.