TRing on an old rope
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I recently got a Bluewater rope that is probably 8-10 years old. It has never been used, and has spent those years sitting in a rope bag in a garage. I've inspected the rope and it looks and feels to be in good condition. Now, I'm certainly not about to go out and take any whippers on this thing, but I would like to know if it would be safe to use for TR soloing. TR set up would be a camp lift backed up with a micro trax. |
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If you're questioning if it's okay to climb on, you probably shouldn't climb on it. |
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Many have used worse. |
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Sounds fine to me, I have lead on a. 11 year old 10mm now 11mm rope,.it was like cable and I was terrified to fall on it but this rope had taken allot of whippers on it. So I think you will be fine to top rope on your new 10 year old rope. |
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Everyone's "risk tolerance" is different, but I would be 100% comfortable on that rope. |
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DO AS YOU WISH, ROPES DONT 'BREAK' THEY SHRED !
Austin May wrote:I recently got a Bluewater rope that is probably 8-10 years old. It has never been used, and has spent those years sitting in a rope bag in a garage. I've inspected the rope and it looks and feels to be in good condition. Now, I'm certainly not about to go out and take any whippers on this thing, but I would like to know if it would be safe to use for TR soloing. TR set up would be a camp lift backed up with a micro trax. ThanksIt's your life line, LIFE-LINE I'm a constant user of old ropes. 10- 20 yr old ropes, Cords that are 11m work-horse, cables. Sure they have lost some properties, dull, fuzzy in spots, hand and elasticity are what I watch. Any change in either would cause me to, Cut the rope into anchoring lengths. I'm saying this with no other information and it may be fine for group use or anchoring, Still..... (The By the book answer:. . . Not that it means much) No way dude, and I climb on two strands of a 40 yr old 9m 150 foot rope, regularly! That rope, a rope that has been with me in 3 different bedrooms, (in bins or packs in closets) So I know the history of the care & use of my cords and have full confidence In them I never ever leave a rope in a garage ever .! If it has "spent those years sitting in a rope bag in a garage." Where? On the floor ? Rope Bag? That's a plus. Temperature changes? no worry. What types of contamination has it been exposed to? You say it is "new" what does that mean? Still in its origanal factory coil & plastic ? (That's what New means) Has it had any exposure - do you know ? When it comes to Soloing: The big factor in useing things (when alone) is knowing that your system is sound. You need to have full confidence that you have made as sure as possible that there is no chance of a catastrophic failure. Any nagging doubt can and will cause you problems - loss of focus. Or a less than aggressive approach to what you chose to Top Rope. ,ED-IT; ( the next day.) Yeah what everyone says . (C -blind faith) that works! And true enough If you tear or break a rope you have 'bigger' issues. As by the consensus method Go for it Buy this rope, |
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Austin May wrote:8-10 years old... in a garage.Nope. Few things cause me not to trust a rope but that's one of them. Edit: Michael beat me to it! |
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If you tie it off to have two independent strands, and you use one as the main and the other as the backup, you'll be fine. |
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There has never been a case of a climber dying because he climbed on a brand new rope that was simply too old. Nylon is one of the most common synthetics in the world and it's used in virtually every application in existence. |
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It's fine. I wouldn't hesitate to use it. I'm still top roping on a rope that's 25 years old and in beater shape. It's pretty damn tough to break a rope. |
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I've top-roped on some pretty fucking gnarly ropes. If it's going to distract you from the climbing, don't do it, but I really doubt it would be an issue. Give it a good inspection when you use it to make sure it looks good; any problem spots should show up long before they cause an issue. |
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If it wasn't left in the sun I would probably whip on it. |
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Concerning static ropes, but not a bad reference. Most importantly, it sounds like bluewater has the ability to answer your questions as to your ropes shelf life. Maybe try contacting them? |
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Austin May wrote:I recently got a Bluewater rope that is probably 8-10 years old. It has never been used, and has spent those years sitting in a rope bag in a garage. I've inspected the rope and it looks and feels to be in good condition. Now, I'm certainly not about to go out and take any whippers on this thing, but I would like to know if it would be safe to use for TR soloing. TR set up would be a camp lift backed up with a micro trax. ThanksI'd whip on that all day long and not think twice about it. Even rope manufacturers such as beal state that a ropes life includes 10 years of storage and an additional 5 years of use for a rope lifetime of 15 years, and you know that they are being conservative to cover themselves. |
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No problem, IMO. |
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I climb on ropes until they are lumpy and look fuzzy as hell. I stop climbing on these ropes when I get a core shot. I then cut out the core shot (hot knife) and continue climbing. |
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My personal observation with regard to ropes; |
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No. If I understand you correctly, you got this rope from some unknown person who claimed to have had it stored in their garage? It was not in the plastic, but had been taken out and put in a rope bag? No, don't climb on it. Not even toproping. I've only seen one rope become 2 when some pup was rapping on it. As Michael Schneider says above and I agree with his post, it "shredded". Kid might have weight 145 lbs max and the rope failed while he rappeled. Kid had his femur sticking right out of his jeans. Blood everywhere. Thank the dear lord it was a short (not tall) cliff. |
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I like this crowd... |
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I'd climb on it. "There isn't a single recorded instance of a rope ever breaking due to just being old" Beal recommends a rope could be used up to 10 years after sitting unused for 5 years. Total life time of 15 years. |
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It will only be safe if you use an equally old harness. |