Do you stick clip? Why or why not?
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will ar wrote: Looks cool, but am personally looking for something with a bit more length. How sturdy is it?climbing friend, that is what she would be saying!!!! ho ho ho ha ha! |
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Ain't no bolt too high. |
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I'm thinking flying both domestic and international (Kalymos maybe)? Can you fly with a 4" one? |
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I have the longer one, and can fit it into a REI wheelie beast/large duffel, so yes, easy to fly with |
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anotherclimber wrote:The length you need will depend where you climb.Exactly. Sure, there's the issue of fitting the collapsed length in luggage or vehicles, but a max length of 10' or 12' simply isn't going to work as expected in a lot of areas. A few areas where I climb have the first bolts at 15 or 18 feet. I got my painter's pole at Home Depot. It's range is 6'- 20'. I recall once having to stand on tip-toes to clip the first bolt with the pole fully extended, and I'm 6' tall. For the business end, I used to use the Trango Squid but replaced it with a Superclip a couple of years ago. |
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Marc801 wrote: Exactly. Sure, there's the issue of fitting the collapsed length in luggage or vehicles, but a max length of 10' or 12' simply isn't going to work as expected in a lot of areas. A few areas where I climb have the first bolts at 15 or 18 feet. I got my painter's pole at Home Depot. It's range is 6'- 20'. I recall once having to stand on tip-toes to clip the first bolt with the pole fully extended, and I'm 6' tall. For the business end, I used to use the Trango Squid but replaced it with a Superclip a couple of years ago.Absolutely. At the New River Gorge, there are a fairly large number of routes that have extremely high first bolts - as well as other routes that more or less require the 2nd bolt clipped to prevent likely injury. A 20 foot pole is a smart choice, especially for some of the sport routes that will not take gear before the high first bolt. Its also useful for bypassing rotten bolts on some routes, especially ones that are submerged during summer months. |
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I had a squid on a painters pole but gave it away. |
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Mark E Dixon wrote:12 foot extendible pole which folds to 32 inches. Which unfortunately is just too long for my pack.Wait. Are you putting the stick inside your pack? |
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Marc801 wrote: Wait. Are you putting the stick inside your pack?I will be packing it into my checked luggage somehow when flying so size does matter to me - also better not be too fragile - airlines aren't gentle on things. |
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Marc801 wrote: Wait. Are you putting the stick inside your pack?Yep. I don't like carrying the painters poles. The beta stick can fit on the outside, but catches on low branches. I might be willing to deal with that if they didn't cost >$100.. |
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Mark E Dixon wrote: Yep. I don't like carrying the painters poles. The beta stick can fit on the outside, but catches on low branches. I might be willing to deal with that if they didn't cost >$100..Ever thought of using a thick tent pole? |
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that guy named seb wrote: Ever thought of using a thick tent pole?I'm sure that would work fine. I chose to indulge and spend $30 on the epic. But $100 was just more than I could justify. |
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I got my beta stick for 59 from backcountry with a coupon. I really use it for flights only, otherwise it's the 15' painter pole from Home Depot. Makes a good walking stick. |
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You can make a great stick clip for less than $30. Go to a hardware store, buy a painters pole, a 5" spring clamp, and 2 hose clamps big enough to secure the spring clamp to the end of the pole. It's a little ugly but far superior to many commercial stick clips especially the damn Squid. |
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Dustin Stotser wrote:You can make a great stick clip for less than $30. Go to a hardware store, buy a painters pole, a 5" spring clamp, and 2 hose clamps big enough to secure the spring clamp to the end of the pole. It's a little ugly but far superior to many commercial stick clips especially the damn Squid.The Squid sucks. It is easy to break and I can get it to work with some biners only |
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This thread is SILLY stuff. Climb better you won't need one. |
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I've only ever needed one where falling before reaching the first bolt could result in major injury. I prefer the superclip, can install a draw, put the rope up on preexisting draws and ever remove a draw. |
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Jeff constine wrote:This thread is SILLY stuff. Climb better you won't need one.I guess that's why Sharma, Caldwell, Ondra, and a long list of others have used stick clips. Seriously, read the numerous threads on stick clips and why they exist. What you wrote is the truly silly statement, borne of ignorance. |
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Jeff constine wrote:This thread is SILLY stuff. Climb better you won't need one.People find it more fun to climb at a level slightly higher than they can 100% send, i.e. challenging = fun. |
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Ana Tine wrote: People find it more fun to climb at a level slightly higher than they can 100% send, i.e. challenging = fun.Whatever Stick clip = you did not ruck up. It's already bolted, man up and climb. This new gen of is funny with sticks instead of balls. |