Conditions on Grand Teton
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I know the mountain got some snow today. Looking to climb the upper Exum Ridge. Anyone know roughly when the conditions will be good? |
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I talked to the climbing rangers today because I will be climbing the Middle Teton glacier on Friday. They reported 8-10" of new snow (not sure I believe that number). By Friday I expect the snow to be melted out in the sun, settled and firm in the shade. From my experience on the Grand, even a week after a storm like this with warm temperatures there will still be verglas ice in the shade from the runoff. |
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Curtis Baird wrote:I know the mountain got some snow today. Looking to climb the upper Exum Ridge. Anyone know roughly when the conditions will be good?When we climbed the upper Exum last year, there was a fairly cold storm the day prior that shut down the mountain (essentially). Only dropped an inch or two of snow. We felt like a late start would work and have some of the snow/ice melted off, but, the traverse across the gully and Wall Street itself were fairly spicy and turned away most folks. We danced around the difficulties but I'd say I have a few years (31 in the Tetons) of climbing experience to be able to safely do that. Here's what the approach to Wall Street looked like: I don't doubt the mountain got a bunch of snow. How long before melt out? Week at least I'd guess. Might be longer for verglas in some locations. I'd suggest caution at the least. |
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Partner and I were planning to attempt the grand traverse Friday car to car. We have a fair amount of alpine experience, but haven't climbed in the Tetons at all. Sounds like, at the least, the melt is going to slow us down enough that it would take quite a bit longer. Anyone with experience still think the traverse is viable? |
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Justin S wrote:Partner and I were planning to attempt the grand traverse Friday car to car. We have a fair amount of alpine experience, but haven't climbed in the Tetons at all. Sounds like, at the least, the melt is going to slow us down enough that it would take quite a bit longer. Anyone with experience still think the traverse is viable? PS: Rangers told me 6-12"The traverse requires a lot of soloing on terrain that while not difficult when dry is apt to be veriglass or be snow over ice. Getting from Teewinot to Owen and Owen to the Grand are going to be the most problematic. As such, I would not be trying a CTC traverse. |
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Thanks Allen. Looks like we're headed to the cirque instead. |
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Anyone think it will be melted off by Saturday or should I just go next weekend? |
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Look at the temperatures at the Lower Saddle for the last 7 days: |
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Sounds like we will go next week! |
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I am also shooting for the Grand Traverse starting in 8 days though. Taking pounds more gear than last year when we did the traverse during the last few days of August. Last year we took no cramps or axes which worked out great. For next week I am planning bringing steel crampons and a real axe along with more bail gear, a picket and maybe a screw just in case. Might half to take the North Face Low Light Tour instead of the N. ridge Italian Cracks variation to keep it as moderate as possible. Looks like a week of high pressure so hopefully that helps. Still trying to figure out what boot / shoe solution will work best. |
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Brett, |
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B.K wrote:What route did you do on MT? Was the couloir filled in?On the Middle Teton we did the Glacier route. The couloir above the glacier was firm snow. The Northwest Couloir was also full of snow but I cannot speak to the conditions since we did not climb it. The Southwest Couloir was mostly melted out with some patches of lingering ice that you could traverse around if you didn't want to bring crampons. |
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Ty, for what it's worth, did the traverse as far as the Owen summit last weekend, then down the koven. Didn't pull my axe or crampons out till the koven col. Grandstand to NR *looked mostly snow free from my vantage point. Rock and above the koven chimney was meltdown out enough to get mostly around the summit block on rock (likely even more so now) so while there were lots of snow patches to climb/cross they were easily done in approaches and crampons. |
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Thanks for the info. Why did you bail there? Did you see anyone climbing on the north side of the grand. Trying to figure out which may be the best way up right now. Mabey the low light tour insted of the n ridge and Italian cracks.... Sounds like I might be better off with approach shoes... Kinda thinking Gandas or my trango boots. Would prefer the gandas but don't love strap on crampons and would almost rather use crampons with the trangos. How did the area around gunsight notch look? Thanks again for the info. |
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Ty, I had planned to descend the Koven that trip, was just out soloing for the day, and don't quite want to tackle the NR solo just yet, if you know what I mean. Area around gunsight looked pretty snow free, but again, was just what I could see from the Owen approach/summit, so take with a grain of salt! would assume same-ish conditions (maybe slightly more snow due to aspect) as peak 11/prong area, which was very snow free, but someone else here may know better. |
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Thanks for the detalled info!! I did hear a report from a buddy that said Kyle Dempster soloed the traverse in 16 hours last week with just micro spikes. Not sure if that was before or after the weather moved in. Other reports I have heard latily are that the pins on the Owen chimney on the OS are encased in ice as of a few days ago.... |
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Folks bringing crampons to get to get to the upper saddle of the grand these days? |
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Nope |
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Any info on the recent conditions of the enclosure couloir? Also looking for partners... |