Anyone have both Miura VCs and TC Pros to compare sizing?

Despite living in a city, where all things should seemingly be available, I can't find a store with TC Pros to try on. I'm getting to Yosemite and Tuolumne fairly regularly this season, so I want to try out a more specific shoe.

I tend to wear Miura VCs for sport and gym climbing. My "Comfortable" sized pair are still pretty uncomfortable as an all day shoe.

Anyone have some insight on how the sizing compares with TC Pros to Miura VCS? I read that the TCPs won't really stretch. I was thinking half size up from my sport/bouldering size.

Thanks in advance!

I wear a 42 in vcs muiras and 41.5 in the tc. Street shoe 10. Tc is comfy but not sloppy at all, the muira is a little "tighter" feeling even though it's a half size larger.

Muiras snug at 44.5
TCs comfy at 45

VS I've worn both 41 and 40.5. The 40.5 being a little too tight. However that left the 41 with a little less firm backstep edge than I needed for the smallest bouldering edges.
TC Pro, 42, sized for crack climbing (toes flat).

When you're in Tuolumne, you're not that far from Bishop (1+ hour). Wilson's Eastside Sports probably carries TC Pros, so you could try them on. Great store, if you haven't been there.

eastsidesports.com/eastside/

Same size. Could go up a half size in TC Pros

42.5 muiras - bare foot
43.0 tc pros - thin socks

Muira VS 43 ( tight gym shoes)

TCs. 43.5 (all day comfort)

go down a half size from your performance fit Miura VC to get good fit for the TC Pros, otherwise you'll wish you had after about a week of wearing them.

The last is different so it's worth trying the shoe on. Can you order from somewhere that does free return shipping? Order 3 or 4 sizes, return all but one?

I climb in Miura VCS all the time, it's my favorite shoe. TC pros felt narrower and didn't fit right for me (and I tried on 3 sizes and climbed in them for 30 minutes or so).

I also sized up by 1\2 for the TC Pros. Found them to be fairly stiff at first and broke in to be comfy enough for multi pitch cracks yet still inspire confidence on small stuff.

same size.

TCs took a while to break in.

Thanks for the input everyone! It definitely seems like I need to track a pair down to try on before committing to them.

ollieon wrote:The last is different so it's worth trying the shoe on. Can you order from somewhere that does free return shipping? Order 3 or 4 sizes, return all but one? .

I own both, and the same size seems to translate well.

Snug Miura VCS size 39
Comfy TC Pros size 39.5

Will probably buy a toghter pair of TCs for more technical crack+face routes cause the 39.5 rolls a bit on tiny edges.