Told you can't climb because of a photo shoot? How do you respond?
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I'll use a more accurate type writer next time. |
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Once upon a time, on my 1 day off from my 6 day workweek, a friend and I went to the Solar Cave outside of Santa Fe to send a project we'd been working on. A film crew working on the remake of 3:10 to Yuma with Russell Crowe was there. No posting about filming or crag closures was up, but one of the heads of the crew gave us bigtime attitude and asked us to leave. We tried to take the high road and be tactful but it didn't work, and was met in return by ignorance, arrogance, and entitlement. Being Irish and raised in New England, I am not at all above giving somebody who is acting like a jackass a dose of their own medicine. I offered to leave, in return for a check for 3 days' wages. I'm a Custom Finish Carpenter and I'm used to a living wage. Everyone's time is worth something, no? It was a big budget Hollywood project after all. They did not oblige with a check, hence we did not oblige with leaving. We both sent, and mister Hollywood pants ran around the canyon pouting all day. |
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holy $hit this seems lame. |
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Working here and there in the film industry, I understand the "this is war" mentality that comes along with shooting something. The costs of prolonging something even a couple hours can be staggering. That being said, if I am shooting something and don't have a permit or the location locked down, I'm all "yes sir, thank you sir, is there anyway you could do us a solid sir, etc..." Filming is a real bitch of an endeavor, which is why I don't mix it with climbing unless it's setting my iPhone on a rock and being willing to climb something again when someone's dog parks itself right in front of the lens. |
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This doesn't surprise me. People care more for money than they do for blood, life, experience, love, balanced relationships. Another example of money winning over experience (people getting their attempt at the experience being turned away). You didn't know money can be taken to the grave? You didn't know every rich person is authentically vibrating with happiness? Money is more important to many than their gods, their blood and their friends and family. |
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Well sometimes running into a shoot isn't all that bad, I once started to one of my favorite state parks for a little solo/bouldering and upon passing a stream bed I noticed a large silver umbrella in the creek with several people gathered around, I parked and from a distance realized it was some kind of photo shoot, and went on about my business, then later in the day I moved to another area of the park and as I was leaving came face to face with a Playboy photographer who I remembered seeing in the magazine, his entourage included the hottie which was the subject and assorted assistants, I paused stayed a distance away and partake of a real photo shoot. |
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Nice JHN PAYNE! Ill share a similar story: |
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so i guess i was on the right track with the compensation thing after all. I don't think the free soloer in this situation was naked, and I am thinking willeslinger would not want to see the free soloer naked. |
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bergbryce wrote:holy $hit this seems lame. do people really buy climbing videos? i found masters of stone I and II at a flea market for a dollar and it was cool to watch, once. so i guess people do buy them.its even more funny/lame that most people that want to somehow make a living off of climbing(guiding,making films etc) end up exploiting areas for $$$$ and stepping on people toes. I'm sure this statement will piss someone off but I can live with it. on another note- whats up with killis/killing in the name and his obsession with naked people anyways? |
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I would be pissed! Ask for their permits, like someone said, then call the cops if they keep pushing you away without showing a permit. |
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spella wrote:Having worked on several of these types of jobs over the years, I have to agree- being told you "can't" climb something because of a shoot is bullshit. What every climber should know if they find themselves in this predicament is this: If you are told you can't climb something, ALWAYS DEMAND MONEY. Big production companies usually have cash money on location to bribe climbers to stay off routes. I've seen two lucky dirtbags walk away with $400 once.Great advice, never even thought about soliciting a bribe! |
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I would prominently post the soloists name here and give her (another) public crucifixion. |
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Did you ask to see their badges or are they the type that; don't need no stinking badges? |
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what a load of horseshit. i bet the radio bitches were prancing around like a bunch of groupies. should have throat punched them. |
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"some prominent free soloist" |
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Ya'll should have aided the thing. |
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FWIW the BLM fucked up and gave out like 3 permits for Castle Ridge that weekend. |
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The Stoned Master wrote:. The US govt says I own 23 acres in Perry County PA...this is incorrect. I manage, live amongst and care for 23 acres in Perry County. Big fucking difference: ownership versus friendshipDid you pay for all that land with love and experience? |
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Do the permits grant exclusive use? of a route, a formation, or the entire ridge? |
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Just follow this easy flow chart! My bet is that it's for a specific climb. I don't know though.. |