Quick Draws
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I'm sure this topic has been covered before but I can't search the forums. |
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Paying for easier access gates, light weight, and especially name brand. Get the 9.95 ones anywhere for starters, nothing wrong with them. |
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Depends on a few things... |
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Jeffrey Watts wrote:I'm sure this topic has been covered before but I can't search the forums. Quick draws differ greatly in price, I'm sure they are all built to same safety specs so what do I look for, what's the difference in wire gates and other features, what makes a good quick draw? I don't mind spending money on top of the line but I want I know what I'm paying for.I'm going to assume that you're talking about draws for sport climbing and answer the question according to that assumption. For sport climbing you want a draw with a keylock biner on the bolt end (petzl spirit is the gold standard), a thick dogbone for easier grabbing and french freeing, and a rope end biner that is easy to clip, has a wide gate opening, and a high open gate strength. The keylock bolt end biner will make cleaning overhanging routes much easier, when you are working routes you want to be able to grab a draw easily, and gate flutter is a real concern on the rope end of a draw (biners have failed due to this phenomenon) which is why high open gate strength is important. If you like wiregates, they also help reduce gate flutter which makes them a good choice for the rope end of a draw, on the bolt end of a draw however, wiregates make it more likely that the draw could unclip itself (still highly unlikely, but it's something to consider). |
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what others have mentioned above ... |
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Jeffrey Watts wrote: I'm sure they are all built to same safety specs so what do I look for, what's the difference in wire gates and other features, what makes a good quick draw?Yes you are correct, purchase your gear from a reputable store and you will be getting carabineers that are rated to a certain standard. So my analogy, A ford focus vs Porche (just examples not dissing or supporting any thing here). Both are cars, both will get you down the road, and both have certain standard they are built by. But which one will give you the more enjoyable ride. Which one will give you the performance you want. Same holds true for carabineers, the more expensive (in general) have better springs, feel better have smoother working parts. The cheap biners will hold your fall just like the expensive ones will, I have used some cheapos that feel horrible, the gate action is rough and the gate flutter is bad. So IMHO, hit up a gear shop and play with the gear and see what has the right feel for your budget. |
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Keylock on the bolt side is pretty nice to have. Makes cleaning routes a whole lot faster and easier. It is also nice on the rope side but not as crucial. |
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Matt N wrote:BD posiwires coupon 'seasonswap' and they're under $10/drawThese draws are awesome. I have a bunch, they are top shelf and amazingly cheap. |
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David Appelhans wrote: These draws are awesome. I have a bunch, they are top shelf and amazingly cheap.Yep, they are the old "hotwire" QDs from a few years ago before BD changed the hotwire to a hotforged biner. About as solid as you can get. Replace the dogbone with a petzl and it makes an excellent cheap QD |
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