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The UAE borders Saudi Arabia, Oman, and the Persian Gulf. Climbing seems to be abundant.
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Dubai,
Above is the link to the guide books web site for climbing in this area. I recommend that anyone who climbs out here purchase a copy. It is a good guide with good directions to the areas, however it leaves a lot of info out. For further information, topo's a list of FA's please see the website posted above.
Are few other good links are the also posted below.
Also if you are climbing here please add any info to these areas.
facebook.com/#!/group.php?g…
redarmadapublishing.com/blog/
uaeclimbing.com/forum/
redarmadapublishing.com/blo…
omanclimbing.com/forum/inde… Dec 7, 2010
Dubai,
facebook.com/group.php?gid=…
This is a link to the climbing forum for the UAE. It is currently the best spot to find a partner or get further info for climbing here.
You can also find info or partners on the UAE Rock Climbing Club Facebook page.
Hopefully the MP website will soon be the widely used site for climbing in this area. Dec 7, 2010
Dubai,
This website contains download-able GPS maps for the UAE. This info is provided by climber, hikers and adventurers in the UAE. Thank you to all who contribute. Dec 11, 2010
Dubai,
Dubai,
Dubai,
There is a great number of climbing sites within the UAE that has not been known by outsiders - neither has been any activity coming out of this end of the world on MP.com before Brian Coones started to talk about the area and The Guidbook; and praised and thanked all those who have contributed to such material. According to what I have been reading, he has given a great amound of recognition and appreciation to Red Armada.
I do not see how an open and free marketing of your product on an international website can either damage your reputation or have a possible loss of income of the increase of sales of Red Armada's guidbook. As I see it, the publicity is only to Red Armada's benefit, not Brian's.
People living in and outside of the UAE are now aware of the fact that there is an awailable/legitamate source of information for climbing enthusiasts. And isn't that what the book has been written for? Jan 3, 2011
I find this kind of odd if you type uae climbing into any search engine the first three site listed are for our forum after thats its for golbal climbing and then the reda armad publishing. We Have also over the years had articles published in Gulf news, seven days, the national, and time out magazine, The offroad explorer book also indicates where the climbing locations are for wadi bih and wonderwall. There have been television documnetaries for some german channels and also a feature in "this is dubai". There is some info and direction to get more at rockclimbing.com. Both the wafi climbing and the trade centre wall have adds in time out dubai. I got here ten years ago and it took me two weeks to find the climbing. I dont think you where looking hard enough. Jan 4, 2011
I find it difficult to believe that despite your claim to have been in the Emirates for 5 years that you have been unable to find any information pertaining to UAE climbing. A simple internet search would have taken you straight to the active UAE climbing forum.
As far back as 1997 there was a 5 page spread in one of the major international climbing magazines (Mountain Magazine - published in the UK)
I was author of the original CD guide before 'passing the baton' on to Red Armada publishing, and was responsible for discovering many of the locations at a time when the likes of maps, satellite imagery and GPS were not available. Many hours were spent driving and walking into obscure areas with little success - other than being able to tell people not to bother looking there again!
I tried unsuccessfully for a number of years to get my guide published, and put a lot of effort in via various climbing forums in trying to raise the Profile of UAE Climbing. Sadly I left the area in 2000, and in 2003 decided to make all of the information I'd gathered available on a CD in pdf format. Somewhere in the region of 100 CD's were produced prior to transferring rights to the text and images to Red Armada.
For a number of years, Global Climbing of RAK distributed the original CD guide and it was on sale in outlets such as Picnico in Dubai.
Immediately before Brian's original post I was approached by Brian for background information on the areas that do not appear in the current printed guide (though are freely available via the Red Armada website). I gave Brian a copy of my original intro / historical section - though reminded him that copyright belonged to Red Armada and that any reproduction of copyrighted material must be authorised by Red Armada.
Whilst Brian's original posts do indeed give reference to the UAE Guidebook and Forum, his subsequent plagiarising and blatant 'cutting and pasting' of copyrighted material is deeply offensive to all involved in gathering and producing the guides. Jan 4, 2011
- DELETE all his blatant copyright theft
- issue the mother of all apologies to me and everyone else who's work he has disrespected and stolen. Jan 4, 2011
His description of Al Ain for instance includes absolutely no local info whatsoever which would point to him actually never having been there. i.e. directions to get to wonderwall of following the E66 or E22 won't actually get you anywhere near the cliff.
From Brian:
"The information that I am a submitting about these areas has been compiled from my own experiences and from scouting the areas"
I think I'm quite safe in saying (correct me if i'm wrong Brian) that none of that info has come from your "own experience or scouting"?
I don't personally know red armada, although I know other people who have put lots of time, money and effort into writing guides in the UK, and it annoys me that someone could be so stupid and blatant in their plagiarising.
It's funny that Brian has been so silent since this has all come to light. Maybe he's busy, but it would be interesting to hear his point of view on it all, or are you writing for him now Reni? Jan 5, 2011
Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Brian has limited climbing experience. In my opinion his level of experience and knowledge of the local crags & mountainous areas is not conducive with offering instruction to novice climbers. I have particular concern about tandem abseils I have seen Brian set up for very young children. Brian's placement of trad anchors is dubious. I have witnessed two of four anchors set by Brain for a top rope fail, the third placement was poor in loose rock and the fourth an unusual placement but fortunately it held.
As a businessman I fully understand the anger felt by the owners of copy write material. Brian's actions could also have direct negative effect on my business, his actions could lead to a ban on climbing in the region. (This is not an extreme view, ask those living here).
As a businessman (I run Arabia Outdoors) & recreational climber I am very protective about our climbing environment and the climbing community. All outdoor adventure sports are new and developing in this region, they are not fully understood. Taking into consideration local culture, reactions to incidents and the lack of access rights we have to tread carefully and slowly.
Regardless of the copy write issues (Make no mistake I fully support those that have been perpetrated) Brain is damaging the reputation of climbing in this region with his antics. These include, hijacking plans for a climbers quiet New Year camp by advertising it as a party to non climbers on Facebook, and turning up at crags close to remote residences with noisy members in his group.
A lot of people over a lot of years have put a lot of effort into developing climbing in the region. Many hours have gone into research and publication of guides. One accident or repeated disturbances could very very easily lead the authorities to ban climbing. It is time for Brian to chill out and listen to what he's been told again and again or better still find another sport in another country. He is not welcome here in his current frame of mind. Jan 5, 2011
My apologise I missunderstood what you meant I now do. Jan 5, 2011
He is more than aware of what he has done and the following up on forums etc. As at 15.05 UAE local time he is logged onto uaeclimbing.com/forum/index…
where he will find a significant amount of material about his antics...and yet he has nothing to say unless Reni and Brian are one and the same? Jan 5, 2011
Dubai,
There is no appeal here to the local authorities; we do not live in a liberal democracy. The UAE takes its security pretty seriously and decisions to ensure that security are not taken in consultation with expats. Just look at the location of where we are in relation to some of the other local players and perhaps youll realise just how cautious we need to be when we go climbing.
Some of the activities that have been reported in this thread that have been perpetrated by Brian Coones are just the sort of thing that will ensure a blanket ban on any activities by expats in those areas used for climbing etc... Cultural, sensitivity and awareness do not appear to be in his lexicon. If you want to flaunt your western credentials, stay in the malls. Jan 6, 2011
A truth universally acknowledged, Miss Bennett ;-) Jan 6, 2011
So, what is the latest? Is it possible to find partners and access to the climbing areas pretty easy these days? Would love to do some routes! Nov 13, 2016