Paul Getzke Bloomington, mn

[Hide Comment] The Louisville Swamp contains the closest real rock to the Twin Cities. While the Big Boulder (granite) is the main attraction (I've done at least two dozen problems on it), there are two other bouldering areas to explore. One is located on the Mysterious Island in the middle of the swamp itself. It has problems on solid, nearly quartzite-like sandstone. It is only accessible in winter as you have to cross the ice to get there. The other is my personal favorite, The North Shore Overhangs. I am not going to tell you where it is, but if you find it you will be looking at some of the steepest moderate bouldering (V1-V4) in Minnesota. I have been working the lines there for years and some are really, really good. I'm talking sit starts on 8-10 foot sandstone roofs with funky topouts. There are more difficult lines to be done... Jun 23, 2009

Sean Wolf Denver, CO

[Hide Comment] Sweet! Definitely going to try and scope out the North Overhangs when I'm in Minnesota this July. Jun 24, 2009

Sean Wolf Denver, CO

[Hide Comment] Yeah give 'er a brush man, you'd be doing a service :D Jun 27, 2009

Sean Wolf Denver, CO

[Hide Comment] I like your enthusiasm. I would say keep going for it on posting the problems. I'm sure most lines on the big boulder have been climbed but if you put up the descriptions then it gives others a better idea of what they can find on it. Then when I'm there again sometime I can try them out too. Jul 1, 2009

Paul Getzke Bloomington, mn

[Hide Comment] Yeah, I guess the cat is out of the bag, but why not. I just hope, as do all real boulderers, that the areas will not be trashed by the unclean and uninformed...like the citizens who insist on building a campfire on the northeast side of the Big Boulder. The bottom of the boulder has delaminated as a result, and the small foothold that used to be there is not there anymore. I also found a large campfire had been built next to, but not under (thank God!) the North Shore Overhangs last fall. The party-goers also left two dumped cans of beans on the ground, lots of beer cans and some large sausages were scattered about. Lucky summer conditions are so harsh down there or it would be party central in no time. I cleaned it all up, and am happy to report most all signs of the fire are gone. Spring flooding usually refreshes the Overhangs area each season anyway. Jul 1, 2009

Sean Butler

[Hide Comment] Can it honestly be said that ANY route on this boulder is 3 stars? Don't get me wrong, I think its cool that this boulder is in the middle of a field right in Shakopee, but a 3 star route should be "great" and I have to say that anything on this rock does not fall into that category Jul 16, 2009

Sean Wolf Denver, CO

[Hide Comment] I feel like Beehive is an aesthetic line up a pretty clean face and for the grade deserves three stars (bouldering isn't geared towards the easier grades). That being said, I was there last week with a better climber who was working on a cool ascending traverse problem that covered that whole face of the boulder and it definitely looked like it would warrant three stars. But then again I just gave a problem near the Flatirons three stars today that four others had given no more than two stars. Talking about this is just silly though, as its even more subjective than grades. I understand that it could be deceiving to call a climb awesome if it is a chosspile as then people will be dissapointed for making a trip out to the boulder - but I definitely don't think that is the case here. And yes, beings that it is in Minnesota affects it a bit, but not much as I live on the Front Range where there is endless bouldering and I was pleased to spend an afternoon tinkering around in the swamp. Jul 19, 2009

Paul Getzke Bloomington, mn

[Hide Comment] I have had two very good summer sessions down in the Swamp the last couple of weekends. I am totally astounded at the lack of bugs, but the drought must have impacted the little blood suckers. I was curious about the new ss route that starts from the little round hueco/pocket on the east face of the boulder. From the looks of the chalk, the new line goes slightly right and straight up from the pocket and may be a first. The pocket is also the start for another sit start project I have been working on. It goes right for six feet and joins a standing start problem I did back in January of 2006. The standing start version, which begins with an orange sloper (six feet right and six feet up from the pocket) for the right hand and a black crimp for the left, seemed pretty hard. There are a few footholds, but the bottom of the problem is undercut pretty sharply. It took the ultra-dry conditions of January to send it. I called it Sports Medicine and figured it was at least V4. The sit start variation has to be a couple of grades harder than that. It may be one of the hardest problems on the boulder. Jul 29, 2009

Alex Oenes mpls, mn

[Hide Comment] Anyone find a green (with some sort of pattern) chalk bag out there? I'm not forgetful when it comes to trash, but when it comes to important things like my flashlight (long, skinny maglite), pocket knife (red swiss), and my chalk bag - I'm really spacey. If anyone found it, please let me know. Thanks! Aug 3, 2009

Andrew Jay minneapolis, MN

[Hide Comment] Hey guys! Just went out and climbed it with some friends for the first time a few weeks ago, and it was pretty good time! Also we took care of the "pocket of pain" and had some intense bee extermination going on, check out the video here youtube.com/watch?v=yLPQnE1… Aug 10, 2009

Alex Oenes mpls, mn

[Hide Comment] Andrew - What bad ass videos! Laughed muh ass off through the extraction of the bees in the pocket of pain video (and got a kick out of the dino-ish start) ... and, I'm surprised how well the two videos did the place justice. NOICE. Hope to run into you all out there sometime soon! Aug 16, 2009

Andrew Jay minneapolis, MN

[Hide Comment] haha thanks tigerbeat! it's always great to hear feedback, I'm glad you enjoyed the vids! we're planning on getting back out there again soon. we for sure will have to run into eachother sometime, do you climb at midwest mountaineering much? Aug 17, 2009

Cory L Las Vegas, NV

[Hide Comment] Approach Clarification: My buddy and I went out here yesterday, and this boulder has some incredible features, and is worth the trek! That aside, some clarification on the directions... The road you want to turn off of (about 2 miles after 145th) is called Bluff Drive. You go west on Bluff Drive, then turn right at the T. If you go all the way down and through the persons farm house road, you will have to cross some train tracks. Be very careful and inspect your car before crossing them! They have about a curb high bump you have to take, and it could severely damage your vehicle if it has a low ground clearance. (If you don't want to risk it, park about 300 yards up from the persons farm house on a pullout on the east side of the road. We had a difficult time finding this place, and where we should turn off, that is why I am clarifying. I would love to know these other two places that you are talking about Paul, but it seems you are determined to keep them a bit of a secret (although some searching on the north side of the lake might yield results) ;) Just to clarify, are they both in the park itself? Or are the North Shore Overhangs actually at the North Shore (aka Duluth and above)? Next time we go out we are going to bring a brush and try and get the east/northeast side, it's really dirty. The Bees are docile as well now it appears. Sep 25, 2009

Injured Climber Bloomington, MN

[Hide Comment] Thanks for clarifying the approach. The only problem is that driving on middle road past the train tracks is a bad idea. Its a wildlife refuge. Sep 25, 2009

Cory L Las Vegas, NV

[Hide Comment] Yeah I think that's what was confusing (for myself included), the only reason we drove past the train tracks was because it seems that their are about 2 parking spots before the gate (which is the entrance I believe), and we didn't want to park in the guys yard. I really didn't feel like we were parking on the wildlife refuge, but it's really hard to tell. Best thing to do (and what we will do in the future) is park up before the yard, and walk in (only adds a minute). Thanks for the clarification, it's a great area, and wouldn't want to get people upset at the climbers! :D Sep 26, 2009

Paul Getzke Bloomington, mn

[Hide Comment] By all means, please do not park beyond the sign that says "no parking beyond this point" (or something like that). Always park BEFORE the farmers yard and walk in. Cory has contacted me and I have given him directions to the NSO along with some sketchy beta on some of the better routes. I would wait one more weekend so the Renaissance Festival is over. I will be going back in a couple of weekends and clear the trail, stamp down the tall grass and brush off the holds. The fall season is about to begin!! Sep 28, 2009

Sean Wolf Denver, CO

[Hide Comment] Hey Paul congrats on making it into the best of Rock and Ice (September Issue) :D Oct 8, 2009

Paul Getzke Bloomington, mn

[Hide Comment] I about fell off my chair when I saw it. Oct 9, 2009

Chris Craft

[Hide Comment] Cool to see that people are still climbing at the swamp- I've never climbed on the erratic, but the sandstone overhangs by the lake were pretty fun- I sessioned there a few times when I still lived in the area. If you all enjoy climbing on granite boulders, head out to Swede's Forest one weekend- lots of fun stuff in the V0 to V5 range, with a few harder problems there as well. I always wanted to climb on the stuff on the island, but never had the chance to get out there. Dec 14, 2009

Sam Daley Saint Paul

[Hide Comment] Chris, or anyone who knows, where is Swede's Forest? I have only heard whispers of the bouldering there. It is always fun to explore a new place. Also, does anyone know if the ice is thick enough to walk on yet? I am interested in exploring the island. Dec 17, 2009

Paul Getzke Bloomington, mn

[Hide Comment] There is an on-line guide that can be found on the Prairie Walls website, or just Google Swedes Forest and you will find it. There are also a number of videos showing some of the better problems. Swedes is good and worth the trip, but some the problems are a little mossy. Be very careful about access, which is no problem now, but don't do stuff like build fires or camp by the old quarry. The DNR gets very crabby about things like that. Keep a low profile and send. As for the Island, only one way to find out about the ice...take the first step and see what happens! Dec 21, 2009

Nathan Migdal Bloomington, mn

[Hide Comment] Merry Christmas everyone! This last Wednesday, while briefly bouldering (amid snowfall) the swamp's ISLAND with Sam et al, it became clear that this rocky oasis holds possibly the highest quality sandstone bouldering in the state. Paul, your description of this rock as being nearly quartzite-strong was no exaggeration. If only the Mysterious Island were larger and more of this near-perfect sandstone could be found around the swamp... Besides the NORTH SHORE OVERHANGS,(which actually feel chossy by comparison) and a few mediocre outcroppings, this bomber, weather-strengthened rock appears almost exclusively on the island. The potential for stellar traversing lines pretty high. Now with all of the snow we've gotten, I can't see bouldering here for a while unless a massive broom and leafblower-armed cleanup crew get to work on the place. Those of us there on Wednesday were talking about preexisting problems and ask that anyone with definite established Swamp Island climbs be a hero and post some info on them. This spot is pretty remote, so traffic shouldn't get too heavy out there... ever. Happy holidays. Dec 25, 2009

Paul Getzke Bloomington, mn

[Hide Comment] Hey Nathan, glad you were able to mount an expedition and explore The M Island. Conditions out there are pretty harsh in winter; the island catches blowing snow from all directions and drifting is a problem. Even on sunny days, the rocks can be thickly coated with frost and ice. Once spring arrives, the climbing gets better, but as the ice melts water starts to surround many of the boulders. I have done some problems out there; the obvious tall sharp arete, some sit starts and traverses and a couple of sit starts on a boulder sitting on the south side of the island that looks like a little flat iron. I have also been eying a couple of lines on the north side of the island. One in particular, a sit start under a dark overhang, seems like a good, hard line. Overall its just a fine little lump of sandstone that is unlike anything else around here. Next week it's supposed to warm up, so let's all get out there and send! Jan 8, 2010

Blake K Carrboro, NC

[Hide Comment] Anyone up for an island expedition in the next couple of weeks? After hearing what ya'll had to say, I'm ready to see what it has to offer. Maybe we can get some of that gov't bailout $$$ and build a bridge so it can be sent in the summer too Feb 12, 2010

Matthew Carlson

[Hide Comment] Does anybody know if the river is still flooded? I went down there a week or so ago and the middle road was completely underwater. Jul 11, 2010

Sam Daley Saint Paul

[Hide Comment] Has anyone been to the overhangs recently? I am wondering if there are still submerged. Thanks for the help. Sep 13, 2010

Paul Getzke Bloomington, mn

[Hide Comment] I checked out the Overhangs a couple of weeks ago. It had dried out and was in climbable condition, but covered with sand and muck from the spring/summer flooding. I figured it will take a day or longer just to clean and brush it all off. The mosquitos were terrible! Now, I expect the area will be flooded again for at least a week. Probably same thing for the approach to the Big Boulder....water covered trail for at least a week or more. Such is the nature of swamp bouldering I guess, but fall flooding like this is pretty uncommon in my experience. Sep 28, 2010

Alex Oenes mpls, mn

[Hide Comment] The swamps fall colors are dwindling and everything still seems to be underwater (as of wednesday of last week). I scoped out the overhangs and they were still swimming in at least six feet of water. I might check it out this weekend with my mtn bike, but without any high hopes. Either way, october's a beautiful month for the swamp. Oct 18, 2010

Mr. Swan

[Hide Comment] Anyone been out to the boulder lately? Im thinking about trying to snowshoe in there sometime this week. It will obviously have a good deal of snow on it, but I am hoping to find some overhangs that are dry. Tons of snow means no need for a crash pad!! I grew up in Louisville township, and if I knew about this place back then, I would have been out there all the time. I need to go out there and climb everything I can. Definetly the boulder, and Island, and if I can find these overhangs!!! But Im pretty sure there won't be a trail to even get to the boulder. Luckily I live 5 mins from vertical endeavours now! Jan 16, 2011

Sam Daley Saint Paul

[Hide Comment] Zach. I just went snowshoeing at the Swamp on Tuesday. The winter makes it easy to see the rocks clearly. You will not have any problems finding the North Shore Overhangs! If you make it out before it snows again, you should be able to enjoy top outs that I cleared on the island! However! If you are out on the water be careful near the shores there are a few places where runoff has melted and thinned the ice, tread lightly! Feb 4, 2011

Mr. Swan

[Hide Comment] Im going to head out there on Feb 12th, temps should be mid-30s, and partly sunny. Ill bring a few brushes to clean and a camera to get some pics. Feb 9, 2011

nate moren

[Hide Comment] Found this pic of the louisville boulder the other day. It's from a magazine a long time-ago. Feb 13, 2011

Paul Getzke Bloomington, mn

[Hide Comment] I checked out the NSO yesterday. Melt water is running down the face just about all along the length of the crag. In other words, it was soaked. Aside from that, a nice day to be out. By the way, is that a copy of Vertical Jones that you have there Nate? That is pretty much the article that started it all back in the last century. Feb 17, 2011

Dave43

[Hide Comment] Any chance of bringing a noob out? I'll bring the beer. Mar 11, 2011

Dave43

[Hide Comment] The middle road past the train tracks is flooded. I walked about 200 yards through 2-3 feet of water and gave up after I walked within a foot of a 3 foot snapping turtle. Seemed like a little too much effort. I went to the 145th parking lot and hiked to the trail where it splits to jabs farm but that was majorly flooded also. Looked for the Northshore Overhangs but no luck. It might be possible to go south from the lot past the Ehmiller site to the rock but I didn't have time to try it. May 29, 2011

GarrisonH

[Hide Comment] I added a new route, West Side Traverse. Any thoughts on it would be great. Sep 19, 2011

Paul Getzke Bloomington, mn

[Hide Comment] You have posted one of the best problems on the boulder. You are not the first, but I get the feeling it hasn't been done corner to corner for a while now. Most people start from the gaston on the west face and go up and left from there. I agree with your rating. By the way, the man eating snapping turtles are gone and the approach is back to normal; even better than normal. Same for the Overhangs except the ground under them is totally saturated. Bring a tarp to put under your pad and avoid during weekends until the Ren Festival is over. Sep 19, 2011

Matt Swanson

[Hide Comment] Short Louisville Swamp Bouldering Video youtube.com/watch?v=DZVMckD… Oct 17, 2011

Greeley

[Hide Comment] Does anyone know if you need a crash pad to boulder here? I don't own a pad, and the boulder looks to be surrounded by grass. Is the grass enough to cushion a fall? Thanks. Aug 21, 2012

Paul Getzke Bloomington, mn

[Hide Comment] The road into the Big Boulder is no longer under water. Wood ticks are out already. Otherwise the boulder is in good shape. I swear the split in the boulder is getting wider each year and the west face is a little more overhung than it used to be. Maybe one day it will fall over completely. May 7, 2013

Brettimus

[Hide Comment] Thanks for the update on this boulder, Paul! I just heard about it yesterday, and I'm excited to give it a whirl. May 19, 2013

Laura DeShane St. Louis Park, Minnesota

[Hide Comment] Just a thought, the road you turn on to from 169 is called Bluff Dr. It might make the directions a bit more clear. May 20, 2013

Jack and family

[Hide Comment] Does anyone have info about the conditions? I'm headed past the swamp on the way to Blue Mounds tomorrow, and would love to score a few ticks if it isn't flooded out. Jun 10, 2013

Ben I

[Hide Comment] This is an updates link of the FWS trail map: fws.gov/uploadedFiles/Louis… Aug 23, 2013

Paul Getzke Bloomington, mn

[Hide Comment] Has anyone done a complete traverse of the Big Boulder? I don't know of anyone who has. Its occurred to me that it may be one of the last great problems to be done on the boulder. I know when the flood waters retreat and the boulder is open for business again, that is going to be my next project. I welcome all to try it, too. Let us know if you send it. Jul 15, 2014

Robin Perkins Gastonia, NC

[Hide Comment] Would someone like to show me around the louisville swamp? I went out today and couldn't find the BIG boulder. Jul 22, 2014

Sean Foster

[Hide Comment] Robin - go to this map address google.com/maps/place/Louis…@44.718722,-93.603973,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m5!1e2!3m3!1s69568427!2e1!3e10!4m2!3m1!1s0x87f60e6f56dab499:0x9180329e95bfe97b It should be a picture of the rock on Google and there should be a map icon on the bottom right. Click on the map and choose Earth view. 169 to Bluff Dr, right on Jordan. Park before the parking sign. Walk the road, take a left and keep on going along the path. You cannot miss the rock. Jul 22, 2014

jakeandcats Ferguson Minneapolis, MN

[Hide Comment] While climbing the boulder yesterday evening we discovered a few bats in the "Beehive" crack on the west face. So you may want to consider checking the cracks before sticking your hands in there. Also, the mosquitos were terrible so bring some bug spray. Other than that the climbing was magical. Sep 17, 2014

Aidan Sershon

[Hide Comment] I've climbed the north shore a few times and there are definitely established routes, but I haven't found any "official" info. I'd like to post info about the routes so this fun rock can be enjoyed. Would there be a different page to post it on since this is specifically for the Boulder? I also don't want to name them since the FAs have been nabbed long ago. Sep 12, 2015

Paul Getzke Bloomington, mn

[Hide Comment] The North Shore Overhangs was not covered by the Minnesota Bouldering Guide and it has not been officially included in this website either. The reason is to preserve the rock, which you know from climbing there, is very fragile. Quite a few holds have broken off already, and increased traffic will just make it worse. I would suggest enjoying the place like we always have...under the radar and with a sense of mystery. And yes, I have named all the routes but not published them. That being said, it is a very cool place to climb isn't it?? Try it in mid winter...with El Nino brewing it may be a good winter climbing season for a change. Sep 23, 2015

NorthernLights

[Hide Comment] Hey guys I'm relatively new to climbing. Started gym climbing at VE about a year ago and went to the swamps this weekend as my first outdoor trip ever! I appreciate the directions on here I had no problem finding the big boulder. I also found the North Shore spot but didn't dare touch it out of respect. I have read briefly about how sandstone can be brittle so I left it alone until I know more about that type of material. Is there any video footage of the island? I have only found 3 pictures of it which don't really give me a good visual of everything out there. The curiosity is killing me. Also I read through all the comments on this location and have a question for Paul about a bit you said. "citizens who insist on building a campfire on the northeast side of the Big Boulder. The bottom of the boulder has delaminated as a result, and the small foothold that used to be there is not there anymore. I also found a large campfire had been built next to, but not under (thank God!) the North Shore Overhangs last fall." Can you elaborate on that? I couldn't find anything on google about the term "delaminated" in the context that you seem to be using it. Fire caused the rocks to split? Any more info would be great, thanks. Apr 16, 2016

Paul Getzke Bloomington, mn

[Hide Comment] Perhaps exfoliation would be a better word. The granite layers exfoliate from the heat of the fire. Aug 12, 2016

talker90

[Hide Comment] We tried to head to the swamp boulder a few days ago, but even in late May this year the normal path to the boulder from the Valley View Rd. parking was still completely flooded. It's been a particularly rainy spring (4.73 inches in April and 5.88 inches in May in nearby Chaska) We tried to head South from the parking lot off of 145th, but the trail to Jabs Farm was flooded and closed "indefinitely" according to signage. The other path heading South from the Ehmiller Site was flooded out too Map fws.gov/uploadedFiles/Louis… Jun 4, 2017

Jonathan Breckheimer Corvallis, OR

[Hide Comment] Does anybody know if there have been any harder lines put up on this boulder? I really want to go there and give it a try (and I will no matter what) but I would love it if there were some routes I could really work on here in the V7-10 range. Either way this boulder looks awesome so I'll be taking a trip out here once I get in town! Jul 5, 2018

Ben Hc

[Hide Comment] Where do I find the Northshore Overhangs? Is that the rock formation at the lake/swamp? Thx Aug 10, 2018

Kyle Ellefson Lakeville, MN

[Hide Comment] Jordy Kvam, Hiking from the farm access point is the shortest and most direct way to get to the Swamp Boulder. With that being said I've been there many times and just had to walk through the water. Just follow the road. Oct 21, 2019

John Walker

[Hide Comment] You can check river levels near Jordan here: dnr.state.mn.us/waters/csg/… A friend and I got to the boulder totally dry last Wednesday without trouble. The reading was around 19-19.5 feet at that time. We returned yesterday to find that the rain from Monday/Tuesday was still pushing levels higher. We had to walk through the water up to our knees. The reading was around 22 feet. So if you're not prepared to get wet, only make the attempt if the water level is about 20 feet or less. Oct 27, 2019

John Walker

[Hide Comment] Sharing some knowledge which I've accumulated over the last year here. The overhangs become accessible right around the 18ft mark (see DNR link in my previous comment). Some clever deployment of sticks may be necessary to stay out of the mud. 17ft or lower is a safer bet. To the East of the overhangs by a couple hundred feet, there's another decent spot which is mostly accessible at the 20ft mark (again, see stick comment above). Some sketchy traverses can be done here at the 23ft mark if you're not afraid of getting wet. Anything much higher than that and I'd say the whole swamp is pretty much a no-go for climbing. On the south shore, there are a handful of spots, but they were almost universally more disappointing than the spots mentioned above. Some could be improved with some effort put towards removing vines and loose dirt/moss. To the North along the MN river, there's a light path which breaks off from the gravel trails. It takes you above some additional sandstone cliffs which can be up to 12 feet at times. However, the rock here is almost entirely chossy, and some trees and slopes make it hard to deploy pads fully. I don't recommend. Apr 27, 2020

Cole Hibbard

[Hide Comment] Found the “ North Shore overhangs” today- super cool stuff. What are peoples thoughts on posting grades/pictures here without location? May 29, 2021

Zach Bramel MN

[Hide Comment] Playlist of Louisville Swamp Boulder videos: youtube.com/playlist?list=P… Apr 28, 2022