Elevation: 5,633 ft
GPS: 34.342, -118.011 Google Map · Climbing Area Map
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Shared By: Jordan Ramey on Feb 16, 2007 with improvements by Benjamin Chapman and 1 other
Admins: jt512, M. Morley, Adam Stackhouse, Salamanizer suchoski, Justin Johnsen, Vicki Schwantes
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Description

Plethora of boulder and top rope problems. Usually secluded. Great granite rock! Camping within walking distance (100yds) Can be super cold in the winter. Great summer place to escape the heat and smog of the LA basin.

Getting There

Take the Angeles Crest Highway (Hwy 2) N. past the 134 and 210. The Horse Flats turnoff is ~28 miles from the Hwy 210 intersection, and is the next paved road after Newcomb's Ranch. The road is windy so look at your odometer. After taking the Horse Flats turnoff, drive ~2.5 miles to the Horse Flats campground. Park in the campground (gotta have adventure pass displayed I think). There are 5 main bouldering / top rope areas here all from south to west from the campground. Follow obvious trails to the crags located on the right side of the loop road through the campground. You can only drive one way on the loop road, so its on your right if you're driving. If you stand in campsite 1 and look across the road there is a climber trail right there. There is another trail further around the loop road by site 5 that is VERY evident. Follow this trail to the Teflon Presidents Area (first), Romeo Void, the Main Area, then finally up to Pie Slice. From Pie Slice you can follow a faint trail to the right over to the Top Rope Wall. It is easier to take the trail across from site 1 straight to the Tope Rope Wall though. The Romeo Void trail will loop past all the areas and back to camp eventually, but the trail is faint after Pie Slice.

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Classic Climbing Routes at Horse Flats

Mountain Project's determination of the classic, most popular, highest rated climbing routes in this area.
V0 4
 66
Thin Crack
Boulder
V0 4
 19
Y Crack
TR, Boulder
V1 5 X
 14
The Wave
Boulder
V2 5+
 56
Swiss Cheese
Boulder
V2 5+
 47
Thin Face
Boulder
V3 6A
 48
The Fang
Boulder
V3 6A
 6
Better Bold than Old
Boulder
V4 6B
 31
B1 Traverse
Boulder
V5 6C
 6
Zacks Roof
Boulder
V5 6C
 38
The Fang (Sit Start)
Boulder
V5 6C R
 3
Dragon Flake
Boulder
V5 6C
 17
The Falcon
Boulder
V5 6C
 3
High Chaparral
Boulder
V9- 7C
 4
Nothing But Sunshine
Boulder
5.11b/c 6c+ 23 VIII- 24 E4 6a
 10
Ant Line
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Route Name Location Star Rating Difficulty Date
Thin Crack Main Area > Thin Crack Boulder
 66
V0 4 Boulder
Y Crack Main Area > Y - Crack Boulder
 19
V0 4 TR, Boulder
The Wave Main Area > Blank Generation Boulder
 14
V1 5 X Boulder
Swiss Cheese Main Area > Swiss Cheese Boulder
 56
V2 5+ Boulder
Thin Face Main Area > B1 Boulder
 47
V2 5+ Boulder
The Fang Main Area > X5 Boulder
 48
V3 6A Boulder
Better Bold than Old Main Area > Arbor day boulder
 6
V3 6A Boulder
B1 Traverse Main Area > B1 Boulder
 31
V4 6B Boulder
Zacks Roof Main Area > X5 Boulder
 6
V5 6C Boulder
The Fang (Sit Start) Main Area > X5 Boulder
 38
V5 6C Boulder
Dragon Flake Main Area > Dragon Rock
 3
V5 6C R Boulder
The Falcon Main Area > Falcon Boulder
 17
V5 6C Boulder
High Chaparral Main Area > High Chaparral Boulder
 3
V5 6C Boulder
Nothing But Sunshine Main Area > Peanut Boulder
 4
V9- 7C Boulder
Ant Line Top Rope Wall
 10
5.11b/c 6c+ 23 VIII- 24 E4 6a Trad
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Chris Owen
Big Bear Lake
Chris Owen   Big Bear Lake  
Better than Williamson IMHO. Camping and bouldering is a great option if you like the mountains.

Campsite information can be found here.

Horse Flats is broken up into areas - some boulders have names, but the majority do not, which makes it tricky/confusing to record the routes. So perhaps each area can have an already named reference boulder to help locate the routes from... May 28, 2007
No more silly fees...

latimes.com/news/local/la-m… Feb 29, 2012
My Horse Flats website (earthrover.net) went down--looking for a new place to host it. In the meantime, I posted 3 topos of some of the "newer" (only 8 or 10 years old now...) areas as photos here. Enjoy! Oct 28, 2012
Ray Palmer introduced me to Horse Flats in 1968. We bouldered here regularly in the late '60s-early '70s. Wondering if anyone knows of him or his whereabouts? Apr 8, 2013
Edmon  
I really enjoy camping there and the problems are fun. The trail starts across campsites 8 & 9 I believe, wherever there seems like an obvious trail head. It will just lead you up to the boulders, a 20-25 minute hike.

I would highly recommend a bug jacket and bug pants. The only thing I don't like about camping there is dealing with flies and mosquitoes. Aug 8, 2015
If you are just planning to climb for the day, make sure you park at the trailhead up the road past the turnoff for the Horse Flats campground about .2 miles. You will then hike up the backside of the mountain and come down the trail into the main area instead. There is NO day use parking anywhere inside the HF campground road, and you will be cited by the rangers if parked on the side of the road. Aug 27, 2016
I just called up the ranger station to ask about parking for a day trip. He said you can park within the campground, just have the $5 adventure pass displayed (which can be purchased at the Chilao visitor center). Apr 19, 2018
Sean Haynes
Los Angeles
Sean Haynes   Los Angeles
He lied to your Florence. You will get a ticket if you park in the camp site and dont pay for your spot. Youll also get one if you try to park off the road. Either buy a campsite or find somewhere else to park outside the campground which extends to the gate. Its like 150.00 ticket and will ruin your day trip! Oct 29, 2018
Sean - is that even when you have the Adventure Pass? Nov 2, 2018
Tristan Burnham
La Crescenta, CA
Tristan Burnham   La Crescenta, CA
You will get a ticket if you park in the campground without paying for a site (or even if you have a site from the day before but aren't out past the checkout time) with or without an adventure pass. But you don't need a pass if you park up at Rosenetta Saddle just up the road. The adventure pass is only for developed areas such as picnic spots or places with bathroom where the forest service is providing a service. Nov 2, 2018
Mikey Wally
Los Angeles, CA
Mikey Wally   Los Angeles, CA
The campground is closed but the gate at the Christian camp is open. So you can park at Rosenita Saddle (or whatever it's called) or the gate to the campground. You need an adventure pass to park near the gate to the campground, not sure about Rosenita.

From the gate to the campground it is a 1 mile hike to Holy Water Boulder. It is mostly gently downhill for the first .8 miles and then it's uphill.

The road in the campground is damaged in multiple spots, that's why the campground is closed right now. Apr 12, 2019
Mikey Wally
Los Angeles, CA
Mikey Wally   Los Angeles, CA
Called the Angeles National Forest number and they said they aren't planning on repairing/opening horse flats campground. RIP

Can't climb here without hearing the Christian Camp blasting their music anyway, which ruins the experience imo. May 1, 2019
Won't fix it ever? Or just anytime soon? May 2, 2019
Mikey Wally
Los Angeles, CA
Mikey Wally   Los Angeles, CA
the person i spoke to was very ambiguous. "they aren't planning on repairing/opening horse flats campground," pretty much verbatim. given the decline of the area over the years (abandoned buildings and neglected infrastructure everywhere/closing roads and highways for decades) i don't think horse flats will ever open again. that's just what i'm seeing and hearing. between this and williamson being closed there is no reason to come up here anymore. May 2, 2019
I'm already fighting a couple wars and can't really open up another front but I'll try and get the ball rolling. I'll update here. Of course it'll help if more people are willing to get involved.
The campground being closed effects more than just the small climber user group. May 4, 2019