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Box Canyon East 0 / 171 / 1 / 3 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 175
Box Canyon West 1 / 71 / 3 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 73
Entrance Area Crags 1 / 51 / 6 / 6 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 60
Land That Time Forgot, The 0 / 30 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 30
New Bob City 7 / 12 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 19
Southern Canyon Crags 0 / 10 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 10

Description

New Jack City (NJC), also known as Sawtooth Canyon, is a sport climbing destination near Barstow, CA. With more than 450 sport climbs ranging from 5.6 - 5.13 scattered across the high desert, New Jack City offers something for climbers of all abilities. The rock is an unusual form of metamorphic rock of volcanic origin, offering often tricky and thought-provoking sequences and moves on huecos, pockets, edges, jugs, underclings, and crimps. The climbing is typically steep and diverse, requiring both strength and technique. Located in the high desert the climbing season runs from October through May.

Getting There

Heading south from Barstow on Hwy 247 (Barstow Rd.), turn right on the dirt road at mile marker 63.0. Follow this road for 0.9 miles, where the road forks at a BLM kiosk. Bear left at the kiosk, and follow the road more-or-less straight ahead for 0.6 miles until the road dead ends at the main parking area. The maintained trail from this parking area that crosses the fence leads directly to Raven Rock

Camping

Campsites at New Jack City are first-come first-served and there is no fee to camp. Each campsite has a picnic table and fire ring and outhouses are not too far away. No water is available so come prepared - this is the desert.

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5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c
Cool Enough
Sport
5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c
Sam I Am
Sport
5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Jack Be Nimble
Sport
5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Route 66
Sport
5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Reaching Rayane
Sport
5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Fun in the Sun
Sport
5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Crooked Dick Spire
Sport
5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Welcome to New Jack City
Sport
5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Little Red Book
Sport
5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Three Giant Steps
Sport
5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Step Across
Sport
5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Holey Moley
Sport
5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b
Espresso
Sport
5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c
Gun For Hire
Sport
5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c
The Scene Is Not For Sale
Sport
Cool Enough Box Canyon East > Boy Scout Wall 5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c Sport
Sam I Am Box Canyon East > Boy Scout Wall 5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c Sport
Jack Be Nimble Box Canyon East > Boy Scout Wall 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c Sport
Route 66 Box Canyon East > Raven Rocks > Raven Rocks South 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a Sport
Reaching Rayane Box Canyon East > Boy Scout Wall 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a Sport
Fun in the Sun Box Canyon East > Sunnyside 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a Sport
Crooked Dick Spire Box Canyon East > Crooked Dick Spire (aka The Finger) 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a Sport
Welcome to New Jack City Box Canyon East > Raven Rocks > Raven Rocks W (Warm-up Wall) 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a Sport
Little Red Book Box Canyon East > Raven Rocks > Raven Rocks: E Face 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a Sport
Three Giant Steps Box Canyon East > Boy Scout Wall 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a Sport
Step Across Box Canyon East > Raven Rocks > Raven Rocks W (Warm-up Wall) 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a Sport
Holey Moley Box Canyon East > Raven Rocks > Raven Rocks N Face "Power Block"… 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a Sport
Espresso Box Canyon East > Raven Rocks > Raven Rocks N Face "Power Block"… 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b Sport
Gun For Hire Box Canyon East > Hueco Wall 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c Sport
The Scene Is Not For Sale Box Canyon East > Crossfire Crag 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c Sport
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Chris Lee
Long Beach, CA
Chris Lee   Long Beach, CA
@Jack Moe Yeah, usually the campsites don't fill up. But in the event that they do, there's plenty of places to camp on the other side of the main road and it's all free. Or, you can do what we've done in the past and make your own campsite OR just post up in the campsite host spot since there's never anyone there. Not that I'm promoting this but when you're in a pinch you can definitely get away with it! Lol Nov 7, 2017
Chris Lee
Long Beach, CA
Chris Lee   Long Beach, CA
Has anyone experienced some aggressive bee's in the area while climbing? My girlfriend and I were out here a few months ago when it was still pretty warm and every route we tried to get on there were swarms of bee's around us and they were extremely aggressive. Planning to go out this weekend to give it another try and I'm praying we don't have the same issue.

Also, if there's any bee experts out there reading this do you know if bee's go dormant or migrate elsewhere during the colder months? I've been camping at Sawtooth Canyon for years now and we've never had this issue before.

Thank you! Nov 7, 2017
If anybody found a red 'Lafuma' back pack with climbing gear near the parking lot in the past week, please let me know! Would be awesome to find it as only had wrecked old gear but sooo useful to me :)

Thanks all, Brad

ransombradley@gmail.com

604-902-0414 Nov 3, 2017
Does anyone have any good campsite locations in the event all the established sites are full? We are coming this weekend and want to be prepared if the place is really crowded. Oct 24, 2017
Christian B
West Hills, California
Christian B   West Hills, California
This place is rad. Especially for being in Cali. It reminded me a lot of the Rock I climbed on in South Africa. Stiff climbing which I dug. Put me in my place a little bit ;) Mar 7, 2017
C Miller   CA  
cliffmama wrote:Anyone know the origin of the name New Jack City? Anything to do with the movie?
Yes, the movie plus the main developer's name is Jack; think it was Mike and Mari who came up with the name which was immediately adopted.

Jan 31, 2017
Anyone know the origin of the name New Jack City? Anything to do with the movie? Jan 30, 2017
Crimp Nasty
Chosstown, USA
Crimp Nasty   Chosstown, USA
Does anyone know if that place is OK to climb after rain? Or does the rock get wet/seep easily?

NJC is choss... There are sections of solid stone, but for the most part almost every NJC climb has a chossy element. Wet choss definitely breaks more readily. Treat it like sandstone and dry it out before you try it out. Jan 22, 2017
Does anyone know if that place is OK to climb after rain? Or does the rock get wet/seep easily?

For instance the forecast/report says that it rained 0.2" in the last day or so and it's raining more now but supposed to stop around noon. Would it be fine to climb tomorrow? Jan 13, 2017
drjman  
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Benjamin Chapman
Small Town, USA
Benjamin Chapman   Small Town, USA
Ditto regarding what Aarika said about the campground host. He woke us up at 2:30am as we had parked our RV in a NO CAMPING area, but suggested that if we couldn't find a campsite we could go back out to HWY 247 and park across the road with no problem. The next day we managed to locate a great campsite and had a wonderful conversation with Jim, the campground host/ranger. Jim is very dedicated, and doesn't appear to hassle anyone that isn't a jerk and abides by the posted rules. If you want to party and make lots of noise into the wee hours, best to go elsewhere. NJC is a very cool place. Feb 16, 2015
Aarika P
Bend, OR
Aarika P   Bend, OR
I just finished up climbing here last week. The construction appears to have ended while we were there. The camping is still free and pretty nice. The camp hosts were friendly and said that climbers are some of their favorite guests because we know how to respect campsites. Dec 12, 2014
cakohl  
Just to update everyone, the area is under construction at the beginning of the entrance road, but other than that it is pristine. Campsites are very nice and appear to be pretty newly renovated. And really close to the rock. I was pleasantly surprised with the number and proximity of quality sport routes. Also everyone I talked to was super cool and respectful. A group even let us use their top rope for a quick climb while my brother (only other lead climber) napped. Never heard from the host, weather was beautiful. Will be returning for sure. Nov 30, 2014
C Miller   CA  
Campsites are first-come first-served and there is no fee - blm.gov/ca/st/en/fo/barstow…. Sep 29, 2014
Mandie Brummitt
Redlands, CA
Mandie Brummitt   Redlands, CA
Does anyone know how to grab a campsite here? Is it first come first serve or do you have to reserve a spot? Cost? Sep 29, 2014
susan peplow
Joshua Tree
susan peplow   Joshua Tree
Hadn't been to NJC in months then oddly twice in a week. NO problems with the host, he didn't even poke his head outside once let alone accost us. The free free area continues and the campground was quiet and pretty well maintained; people enjoying the shade structures and setting up respectful & clean camping. The bathrooms were looking much better on a Friday vs. Sunday but that's to be expected.

Best I can tell, the host is no problem at all. What I found most offensive was both visits was the BLASTING of peoples music and littering of cigarette butts. I couldn't do much about the music other than sigh but the butts....those I picked up along with other wrappers, no less than 6 tape-ends from ropes and other garbage.

Maybe we should look at our own presence and impact before bitching about the Tool.

Just sayin'. Mar 30, 2013
bware  
Well, I guess some of you folks got what you wanted. You wanted more BLM presence, you got it. Camping fees, campground hosts, concrete, rules, regulations, closed-off areas, and speed bumps. And increased tool enforcement comes with it. You asked for it. They were more than happy to provide it.

Speed bumps in the desert! I've never seen such a ridiculous thing.

You can look forward to raptor closures, sensitive area closures, wildlife closures, primitive art closures, limits on fixed anchors, and entrance fees. Eventually they'll shut the place down to new routes, and sometime after that, they'll start looking for reasons to restrict climbing entirely. They'll put gates across the road, and next time there's a budget cut, the whole area will be closed.

Williamson is your guide here. Be careful what you wish for, those who wanted more BLM presence. It's easy to pick up broken glass. It's not so easy to get rid of the managers once they get their hands on an area.

Me, I'm never telling anyone about new climbing areas ever again. Mar 26, 2013
OCnick  
I was there this weekend, and have been told by "ranger *ick" that starting soon the area will be once again allowing OHVs in and around camp (the current host and hostess will be leaving in protest), they will also start charging a fee per site and have restrictions on the amount of campers and cars per site. Gotta love your government, spend thousands to develop an area no one wants developed and then start charging you to use the land you own as an American citizen. I will do my best to NOT follow any of the new rules. Mar 25, 2013
Dreifert
Foothill Ranch, CA
Dreifert   Foothill Ranch, CA
Climbed, camped, and hiked with my wife/son for a weekend. Super mellow - no one bothered us at all, other climbers were friendly and low key, no loud late night conversations echoing around, free camping, but no trash cans so remember to pick up/pack out. At the end of the day almost all the cars left and it was just us with several other campers along with the host remaining.

A much more enjoyable sleeping experience than J-Tree's hidden valley or jumbo rocks campgrounds by far. Mar 4, 2013
Richardvg03 Gilbert   San Diego
I just got back from New Jack... let me tell you... it has been a few years since I've been out there and I was extremely surprised to find the entire area developed. It really made me sad and kind of killed the entire experience. From the moment I came into the area I was confused. I turned around to go read the rules and then returned to find a lady standing in the middle of the road yelling at me. Evidently I was going faster than the poster 5mph sign. She was shaking her finger in my face and being extremely rude. The conversation ended with her cussing at me. Her name was Janet I believe. I climbed the rest of the day and set up camp (which you can only do in developed camping areas now!). After climbing my g/f and I decided to go grab some food in town. As I was exiting the campgrounds an older(ish) man (50-60) waved me down. I could tell it was going to be trouble from the begining as he ripped off his sweatshirt and threw it on the ground. He approached my vehicle, shoved an ID card in my face and said, "Park Ranger!" The conversation after that was another extremely rude one. I was not speeding this time at all. His name is Jim and he didn't really allow me to talk he more or less yelled at me and lectured me. I'm pretty sure he tried to kick me out of the campground but it was a confusing conversation and he ended up turning around and walking away without me literally finishing a single sentence.

New Jack is great climbing! The roads are nice now and the bathrooms and brand new. I didn't pay for camping so I guess it was free... but the camp hosts are definetly sub-par as far as I am concerned as they are were extremely rude. Dec 11, 2012
jt512    
The temps that are currently displayed on this page appear unrealistically low. The forecast I use, the NWS point forecast, shows highs 10 to 20 degrees warmer each day. Use the following link for the point forecast:

NWS point forecast for New Jack City Feb 27, 2012
We are longtime residents of the High Desert, Barstow, and have loved camping in this area but always disappointed at the abuse. Son and grandson have often completely cleaned the area and on one occasion I took photos to the BLM on Barstow Road to implore more care for this unique area. That was over 10 years ago and a recent visit was amazing!! It is the most beautiful and well-planned place to walk, hike and rock climb. The total cleanliness of the facilities shows respect by the users for this exceptional gem and the extraordinary manner in which the camp hosts maintain it. We are anxious to spend a few days there. Thank you all Mar 7, 2011
Davi Rivas
Ventura, CA
Davi Rivas   Ventura, CA
I had the opportunity to visit NJC last spring while on a high desert road trip with my kids. Envy. You desert folk have a nice crag out there. I didnt think the glass/trash problem was as bad as some other areas we saw(Spy Mtn, Ghost Boulders). We ran into more than a few families of off-roaders and everyone was friggin cool. Me and my boys drove away from NJC promising to come back some day.
Whats the current status on the CG construction at NJC? And is there anything to the rumors about plans for wind/solar farms in the area?
Is the area closed for the construction? If so, when might it re-open?
davi. Sep 19, 2010
bware  
My comments for the proposed development:

_______________________

Hi, John:

Thanks for coming out to meet us. I appreciate you going out of your way to get our input.

After thinking about it for quite a while, and talking to other climbers, my comments on the plans are these:

Sawtooth Canyon is a unique area in the Mojave desert. In all the wandering around that I've done, there is no other place with that kind of rock that's big enough to climb, and very few other places with any climbable rock at all. I'd prefer to see no more development there whatsoever. I concede that the toilet and fences have cut back on the Wild West attitude out there, and have improved the area, though it's difficult to divorce that from the fact that there are more climbers out there. Climbers tend to develop a personal relationship with an area that they come back to repeatedly. A climber who is coming out every weekend tends to litter less and tend better an area, perhaps moreso than a off-roader or a partier who is only going to be at the area once a year, or less.

I'd like to see the place remain as it is. Not exactly untouched by human hands, but pretty much just roads and desert.

That said, if there are to be picnic tables and toilets, I would request that Camp 1 be moved around the corner to the northeast, so it doesn't sit right in front of a popular climbing area. If there is a picnic table there, there will always be someone camped there, and climbers will have to go through that site to get to the climbs. If it's around the corner, more people will camp there, and not in front of the White Face.

As you know, the proposed toilet sits in or very near a seasonal wash.

Campsites 6, 7, and 8 sit in a grassy area that is currently largely untouched; what off-road trails are there are returning to nature. It's a mixed bag. The planned development there would be out of sight, but would also impact an area that is currently untouched by the off-road vehicles.

Again, thanks for your time. I hope you will let us know of any further development planned for this area.

Regards,
Brent May 14, 2010
bware  
We spoke to John Kavanaugh on Saturday. A summary: 12 campsites plus a host site. Five sites near the existing toilet, four near the concrete pad along with a toilet and maybe a climbers kiosk/message board, and three sites around the corner in a semi-walk-in campground, along with a new parking area and fence. Currently this area is grassy and unused. The toilet will sit in or very near an obvious wash. It will not be composting. There will be a shade pavilion and two tables by the parking area below Crossfire Crag. Each campsite will have a fixed concrete picnic table, a fire ring, and a barbecue pit.

The BLM hopes to have a continuous host, at least during the main season (Sept-May). The host will have no enforcement powers. Since there are very few rules, there are very few that someone could enforce anyway - shooting, paintball, off-roading, and partying are not prohibited. There are no quiet hours. The hosts' duties will be up to the hosts. They may choose to greet every new arrival, or keep a low profile.

One of the White Face sites was sited in such a way that climbers would have to hike through the site in order to climb there. We tried to convince Mr. Kavanaugh to move this site around the corner on the theory that if there was a table there, there would always be someone camping there; whereas if the table was around the corner, there might not always be someone camped there. If you write a scoping letter, you might mention this. The other sites are away from climbing and bouldering and are where people usually camp.

Frankly, this seems to be a done deal. The BLM has already ordered the materials and scheduled the bulldozers for May 17, the day after the comment period ends. The Environmental Assessment, something that the USFS told us would take months and require a donation of $50k for Williamson, is going to be done on the evening of the 16th, and the bulldozers roll Monday morning.

More worrisome is that this whole area is being considered as a possible site for windfarms and solar arrays. A windfarm is being proposed just south, atop Granite Mountain. This is a much more serious threat to the entire area. May 9, 2010
Bware

You tell an interesting story and one that I predicted would be told(NJC being WAY worse X # of years ago). However, in my mind, the relatively high level of gunshots/glass/yahoos/etc. ten years ago doesn't justify the current amount. I hear you on not wanting another J-tree National Parking Lot and I definitely have my own hideaway for camping.

I'm not totally convinced that an official BLM CG is the answer and am open to alternative options for NJC revitalization before I chip in my two cents to the BLM. May 4, 2010
bware  
BLM Announces Public Scoping for Sawtooth Camping Area Improvements


The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) announces its intent to write an environmental assessment to consider improvements of the camping area in the Sawtooth Limited Use area of Stoddard Valley about eight miles south of Barstow. This proposed project would enhance the existing recreation opportunities for rock climbers and remote campers with the addition of 12 camp sites, one new restroom, a new kiosk, a picnic area and a host site. Each camp site would have a shade ramada, picnic table, fire pit and grill, and a barbeque.

Community members and interested parties are invited to participate in the environmental assessment by providing written comments by the close of business May 16, 2010. Only written comments will be accepted regarding the proposed camping-area improvements. Please submit your comments to the BLM Barstow Field Office, Attn: Sawtooth, John Kavanaugh, 2601 Barstow Road, Barstow CA 92311, or by email to John_Kavanaugh@ca.blm.gov. For further information about the project, please contact John Kavanaugh at (760) 252-6037.

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I spoke to John Kavanaugh today and asked him some questions about the proposed camping improvements at Sawtooth Canyon, AKA New Jack City. I want to thank John for calling me back and taking the time to answer my questions.

Here's what I found out about the proposed improvements.

Four campsites will be near Boy Scout wall, just north of the concrete pad. There will also be a vault toilet and kiosk here. There will be a shade pavilion by the parking area underneath the Crossfire Crag. There will be three campsites on the other side of the canyon from Boy Scout Wall, closer to the existing kiosk. These campsites will be walk-in, in the sense that they'll be 50 feet from the parking area and will have a post and cable fence delimiting the parking area.

Five campsites will be by the White Face Wall, near the existing vault toilet.
The host site will be to the northeast of the White Face, on the other side of the main road into the climbing area, and south of the existing kiosk.

The idea is to encourage campers to congregate in these areas.

An environmental assessment has not yet been filed; the BLM is waiting for the result of the scoping process to start that. Visual impact has been considered, not least because films are often shot there and the BLM doesn't want to affect that.

The BLM is not proposing any changes to the current situation regarding climbing, OHV use, shooting, hunting, and other uses of the area.

The BLM doesn't know yet if these sites will be pay sites, but there are no proposals currently to restrict camping elsewhere in the area.

Hopefully the BLM will work with climbers so that none of the campsites will be directly in front of a climbing area or boulder problem, so that people won't have to hike through someone's campsite to get to a climb.

Mr. Kavanaugh wants to hear your thoughts and comments on the proposed plan. Email is fine. You can email him at John_Kavanaugh@ca.blm.gov, and see the scoping announcement at

Scoping Proposal

I posted my thoughts previously. I'm going to write a scoping response in the next day or so and I'll post it here when I send it off. May 4, 2010
bware  
TomTomTom:

I started climbing out at NJC in 95-96, and it's WAY better out there than it used to be. The gunfire and broken glass is way down from the old levels. If you first got there in 2004, you have no idea. Jack tells me it was worse before then. Burning cars.

Now every time I go out there, I'm surprised how much better it's gotten, from less graffiti, to entire weekends where I don't hear a gunshot. The routes have cleaned up a good deal also :)

Of course, it's BLM land, and with the freedom to put up new routes pretty much at will and camp wherever you feel like comes the fact that paintball, OHV, generators, stereos, and gunfire are all pretty much par for the course. I'm just happy when the shooters aren't breaking glass and don't aim in my direction. I haven't been menaced by armed idiots at 2 AM in ten years or so. Heck, I haven't even heard the midnight ATV run in a couple of years. So, like I said, way better.

To give full credit, a lot of the improvement is due to the BLM fencing off some areas and closing others (no more high pointing the gas pipeline road). It seems that the climbers have been around long enough that even the most hard-headed shooters have generally gotten the idea that weekends are not the best time to shoot out there (a lot of the shooting is on the compounds on the other side of the ridge, so nothing the BLM does is going to have any effect on that). FWIW, hunting and off-roading are approved and historic uses there, so we don't have room to complain, not if we don't want our approved and historic use subject to the same restrictions. I don't need another climbing area closed.

My two cents (and unbiased information in a coming post, this is just IMO): I'm happy with it the way it is. The BLM has done a great job with a light hand so far; NJC has improved worlds and the trend is good. I don't need a campground host to look out for me, or to go complain to. I want to camp in my favorite spots. I don't want to pay. I like being able to put up routes with only my common sense to guide me. I'm happy to maintain the area on my own. I spent a couple of hours clipping wait-a-minute bushes back from the road and picking up trash last weekend, and we tuned up the benches a couple weeks before that. I like not seeing too much evidence of other humans, especially on Sunday evenings when the wind has blown everyone else out. I don't think that a campground host is going to cut down on the generators and stereos, esp. since the host is going to be a fair distance from the regular campsites, and it's legal. I wouldn't mind if people would stop burning the darn pallets so I'd stop getting flats, but I doubt that a campground host is going to stop that. As at most places, if you're willing to hike 10 minutes, or drive an extra bit, you can have all the quiet you can stand, night or day. Not that I want to encourage anyone else to climb anywhere but Raven Rocks and camp anywhere but Boy Scout Wall. Ski Vail, as they say. :)

I don't want it to turn into Josh, I want it to stay like Josh before it became a national park. May 3, 2010
Potential Camping Area Development At New Jack City:

A few months back I was out at NJC and ran into a BLM employee named John Kavanaugh. He approached me and asked me how I felt about NJC usage and the possibility of further development as a recreation area. I received an email from him a few days ago with this link

It outlines a proposal for development of a camping area and asks for written input, due at the Barstow BLM office no later than 5/16/2010.

My take--I started climbing at New Jack City in 2004 and have been dismayed at the increasing abuse that it takes--trash, broken glass, spent ammunition, numerous trash-filled fire rings and unnecessary social and OHV trails. I no longer camp there, not only because of the declining aesthetics, but also due to late-night noise from generators, stereos, OHV engines, etc. To me, the most intriguing part of this proposal is the possibility of a campground host site. A campground host could help regulate the "asinine human behaviors" that seem to be on the rise at NJC.

Whether you agree with my sentiments or not, please follow the link, draft some comments and send them to the BLM.

Sincerely,

Tom Forquer Apr 22, 2010
Art Morimitsu
Huntington Beach, Ca
Art Morimitsu   Huntington Beach, Ca
Southern California Sport Climbing 3rd edition contains most but not all the routes for NJC. Buyer beware, some of the information is inaccurate and there are some mistakes in it. Mar 12, 2007
C Miller   CA  
Make sure and check out the classic Slash X Cafe while in the area - good food and an interesting atmosphere. It's located a few miles to the north (towards Barstow), on the west side of Barstow Road. Jan 5, 2007
susan peplow
Joshua Tree
susan peplow   Joshua Tree
Any rumor that 4x4 may be required is completely untrue. Grandpa's old low rider sedan would make it back there no trouble.

Easily seen from 247 off to the west with black rocks littering the hillside. Much better than expected with interesting rock.

~Susan Dec 16, 2006
Will S
Joshua Tree
Will S   Joshua Tree
Elevation is actually about 3700ft. GPS coordinates 34.6663°N, 116.9784°W (NAD83/WGS84) Dec 16, 2006

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