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Yikes Dikes 

YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c

   
Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 200'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c [details]
FA: Peter Prandoni and Bruce Holthouse, 1979
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Submitted By: Mark Mathis on Jul 14, 2007

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Description 

Area classic! Climb straight up and over the left side of the short bisected buttress above resembling two heads (ala Easter Island) or more simply... a butt. While a belay can be set up below the buttress, the route can be done easily in 1 pitch with a 60m rope.

Location 

Ascends the slab forming the west face of South Rock, easily accessed from the main approach trail. Rappel (double-rope, or will barely work with 1 60m rope) the north side from shared anchors or walk off to the northeast (tricky and exposed).

Protection 

Mixed trad w/ bolts (3). Carry a light trad rack (set of nuts, set of cams, long slings) to supplement bolts. Shares anchor (two bolts with chains) with Surface Tension (5.11-).


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Finishing up Yikes Dikes on an early morning ascent. <br /> <br />Photo by Mark Schraad.
Finishing up Yikes Dikes on an early morning ascen...
The west face of South Rock.  Yikes Dikes (5.8) goes straight up and over the left side of the bisected buttress.  The start of the climb is out of frame to the left.
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By Mike Howard
Administrator
Oct 22, 2007

Peter Prandoni and Bruce Holthouse
By George Perkins
From: Los Alamos, NM
Jun 2, 2008
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

Chris Wenker wrote:
This route apparently was known in the olden days as "Puddin'", and was rated as an old-school 5.6

I was under the impression that the 5.6 climb followed cracks and grooves just to the south of Yikes Dikes, whereas Dikes is mainly face climbing on the west buttress primarily. I haven't tried it though. Could be wrong.

As there are 3 bolts on Dikes (and seeing who added them), and only 1 mentioned for Puddin, I doubt that Dikes is on top of a previously established route.

The old guide is not very helpful. Clearly, Yikes Dikes is not 5.6 by the modern standard.
By Mark Mathis
Jun 2, 2008

FWIW, I can't recall exactly where the bolts are. However, I do seem to recall only climbing the left "butt cheek". Also, I did not have any problem reaching the anchors with my 59m rope (although it did drag a good bit at the end and I did start around on the north side of the formation). Maybe I will just have to go back and climb it again...
By Minesh Bacrania
Oct 19, 2008
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

Per Greg Swift and Sharon Dogruel, the start for "Puddin" is the 10' crack (5.7ish) visible behind the small tree on the left side of Mark's picture. From there, head up the mellow slab (5.6, a little run out in one spot), and then up the left side of the butt. As George says, the third bolt comes just after the section of spicy bit of unprotected 5.8 slab, off to the right from the lower two.

I asked about the start heading up the easier right-facing dihedral, but they didn't have any beta on that. But Greg did say a friend of his "walked down that in flip-flops".
By Terry Price
From: Mancos CO
Jun 16, 2009

Climbed Yikes Dikes 6/14/09. Did not use first two bolts on face and instead stayed in crack and placed tri-cams. Used third bolt and topped out. Otherwise, I placed only nuts and tri-cams. Why use the bolts that aren't needed to climb the feature? Or am I too retro? Would a local please tell me: Did I climb Yikes Dikes or Puddin or neither?
By Jason Halladay
Administrator
From: Los Alamos, NM
Jun 17, 2009
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

Terry Price wrote:
Climbed Yikes Dikes 6/14/09. Did not use first two bolts on face and instead stayed in crack and placed tri-cams. Used third bolt and topped out. Otherwise, I placed only nuts and tri-cams. Why use the bolts that aren't needed to climb the feature? Or am I too retro? Would a local please tell me: Did I climb Yikes Dikes or Puddin or neither?

Hi Terry...I think we met in the parking lot on Sunday after the rainstorm? Based on what I consider to be Puddin and Yikes Dike, my guess is you climbed Puddin. But really, it's never been very clear. I've always thought about it as both routes share the same start up to the "ass" feature. If you climb the harder, bolt-protected face to the left, you're on Yikes Dike. If you climb the cracks to the right, you're on Puddin. Then the routes reconvene at the last bolt for the finish.
If climbing Yikes Dike, the bolts aren't unnecessary as that slab would be spicy without them. So I wouldn't say you're "retro" but rather that you just chose to climb the protectable cracks route rather than the bolt-protected face.
p.s. my chalk ball just finally dried out yesterday after that rain on Sunday!
By Chris Wenker
From: Santa Fe
Jul 13, 2009
rating: 5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c

I used to think this route was known in the olden days as the 5.6 "Puddin'", but now I don't think the old Puddin' description matches Yikes Dikes.

I also feel that both Foley's (2005:76) and Jackson's (2006:59) descriptions and topos are wrong in that they mention 3 bolts. It appears to me that there are only 2 bolts on "Yikes Dikes" proper, on the left side of the bifurcated buttress. After the 2nd bolt, it's straightforward and logical to follow some overlaps above, proceeding straight up into the gray water streak, and follow that as it turns into a low-angle crack that leads to the Surface Tension chains. Almost exactly 200 feet that way.

There is a third bolt on the right side of the buttress, but it is substantially higher than shown in both the guidebooks, above some horizontal seams, and way, way far off to the right of the natural Yikes Dikes line. I went over and clipped that once, thinking it was Yikes' 3rd bolt. It's 5.8 friction over there, it adds HUGE rope drag because then you gotta go way back left to get to the Surface Tension chains, and you might run short on a 60m line. So I consider that 3rd bolt off-route, and its purpose is not clear to me. Maybe someone knows what the FA's intention of Yikes originally was, and if it included this bolt?

The real line of Puddin' is still also apparently open for debate, based on other's comments in this list.
By Daniel Trugman
From: Los Alamos, NM / Stanford, CA
Jul 20, 2009
rating: 5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c

I didn't have to go out of my way to clip the third bolt, and my belayer said that it was in line with all my other gear. Rope drag was not an issue. The climbing wasn't very hard by the third bolt either: 5.6 or so.


This route will get the 5.8 leader's attention with some mandatory runouts, albeit on terrain no harder than 5.7. Despite this, the crux is well protected (by one of the first two bolts, I can't remember which) and easy for a 5.8 at TP.
By Chris Wenker
From: Santa Fe
Nov 13, 2009
rating: 5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c

I'm still not convinced that 3rd bolt is on-route. It forces you way too far right, IMO. If the leader wants to end this climb at the Surface Tension bolts, it's better to skip that 3rd bolt on the right and go left up the gray water streak instead, because otherwise a 60 m rope won't get you there. We started the climb from the closest spot on the ground, but (as the belayer) I still had to simul-climb about 15 feet to allow the leader to reach the Surface Tension bolts after he clipped B3. If the leader does clip the 3rd bolt, and the belayer can't or won't simulclimb, the leader should expect to have to build a gear anchor on top, and then transition over to the Surface Tension bolts.
By Daniel Trugman
From: Los Alamos, NM / Stanford, CA
Nov 13, 2009
rating: 5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c

Interesting. The one time I did this route, I clipped the bolt with a double length runner, and (just) got to the Surface Tension anchors. We didn't do any simul-climbing but he did have to move to the left side of the buttress to give me more rope. But perhaps I'm misremembering. In any case, as you point out, it would be wise to expect some difficulties if you do decide to clip the bolt.
By Mike Howard
Administrator
Nov 13, 2009

Chris and Daniel,

Bruce and I are going to upgrade the hardware on Airy Scary. Should we pay attention to these routes, too? Any suggestions?
By Daniel Trugman
From: Los Alamos, NM / Stanford, CA
Nov 13, 2009
rating: 5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c

If I remember correctly (call me out on this if I'm wrong, Chris), both (or all three) of the bolts are in good condition. I don't think any work needs to be done on Yikes Dikes.

Awesome job replacing all these old bolts! Surface Tension has some old hardware (a piton, I think) but it looked really bomber and you can back it up with a small cam. It held a very exciting thirty foot fall (not mine though, I was belaying). I think Airy Scary might be the only route on South Rock that needs your attention.
By Mike Howard
Administrator
Nov 13, 2009

George Perkins wrote:
RE: Airy Scary... "4th- crappy upward-driven knifeblade piton. "Protects" the psychological crux. You need to make 5.10+ slab moves about 10 or 15' above this, and I was not confident that it will hold a fall"


Bruce and I will check the pin and decide. He is convinced that seam seems rotten. This may end up with a bolt. Did you see the photos I added to the TP discussion Forum?
By Bill Lawry
From: New Mexico
Aug 15, 2011
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c PG13

Howard Snell and I went via the third bolt. Not much gear or time needed for the top anchor that-a-way as there is a nice natural bridge on the side of a hueco that is stout in the direction of a falling second. Plus there is an excellent butt stance in a neighboring hueco. And it's a pretty darn casual walk over to the rap anchor of Surface Tension.

We used an intermediate belay on gear in the central crack in the buttress ... reduces rope stretch should the leader fall on the upper part of the route.
By arjunmh
From: Phoenix, AZ
Aug 8, 2012

60 m rope will get to the anchors of Surface Tension, but it creates a diagonal line that follower won't like at the top, unless they go left from the last bolt. Better to top out straight above the last bolt, build an anchor and belay from there, or else have your follower prepped for an angling top-out.
By Howard Snell
From: Belen, New Mexico
Jun 25, 2013

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