Octagon 

Think again, I'm all but positive that Octagon was freed prior to Kelman and Harpers eroneous, misleading statement in their guide, good send none the less.

I was reluctant to call it a f.a. too, simply because I knew there would be responses like A.C.'s. But after doing some research, I found that the few folks who claimed they had done it never actually stood by that claim. If you have additional info, post it(who, when and how). Thanks

In 20 years of climbing at Vedauwoo, I've not heard of an ascent of Octagon til now. Indeed, I've heard of MANY and participated in one failed attempt. Congratulations Aaron!!

By the way, 5.12 is vague unless you mean .12b/c, but there's a gulf between .12a and .12d- just wanting to know what extent of punishment to expect ....

Thanks Tom, my best estimate is .12c. It was easier than I thought it would be with respect to its reputation. Maybe I just figured out good beta(email me if you want specifics on that-ACLove@pol.net).

Kopischka's '81 guide book called this (no joke!) 5.9+. I'm all but certain he was fishing for somebody to send it and correct the grade, and in so doing force somebody into the first free ascent.