By Dan Allard From West Chester, PA Mar 10, 2013
| Sorry - but no from me too for nearly all the reasons already mentioned above. |  FLAG |
By Kirk B. From Boise, ID Mar 10, 2013
| Ditto. It's already easy to just change shoes. |  FLAG |
By Robbie Brown From Flagstaff, AZ Mar 10, 2013
| like the idea but don't know if i would buy them. Keep up the work man. |  FLAG |
By Brian in SLC From Salt Lake City, UT Mar 10, 2013
| I size my climbing shoes to be pretty snug. Hate the thought of hiking down anything in them (and have) not as much due to wearing out the soles, but, baggin' out the uppers. I clip a pair of approach shoes on my harness. Win win. Interesting idear, though. |  FLAG |
By Brian Hudson From Greenville, SC Mar 11, 2013
| No thanks. The real problem for me isn't needing a more durable sole, it's needing a more comfortable shoe to wear when I'm not climbing. |  FLAG |
By Finn the Human From The Land of Ooo Mar 11, 2013
| Nope. Would not buy. I don't need shoes for my shoes. |  FLAG |
By Rob Davis From Brooklyn, NY Mar 11, 2013
| I bought some used toms that I use for "in between" (not approach) times. Work well. I'd probably buy the cheaper rack room ones next time though |  FLAG |
By wivanoff Mar 11, 2013
| Nope. For a long walk-off, I'm carrying comfortable shoes. |  FLAG |
By SICgrips Mar 11, 2013
| I just use a snug but comfortable pair of water slippers that have knobby treads and just enough padding - super light. |  FLAG |
By CaptainMo Administrator Mar 11, 2013
| nope- climbing shoes aren't nice to walk in - flip flops baby. |  FLAG |
By agd Mar 11, 2013
| In all honesty, this seems like an idea worse than the ATC sport. |  FLAG |
By Reginald McChufferton Mar 11, 2013
| I hope you're also getting feedback on this idea from other sources. The inmates over at rc.com would even be better than getting advice from this crowd of gumbies and over inflated egos. Not sure if this idea is a winner but I like the way you're headed with it! Keep at it, something will pan out! |  FLAG |
By camhead From The Old Northwest Mar 11, 2013
| The fact that these would only work for non-aggressive, flat, multipitch shoes kind of defeats the purpose for me. I already don't care about a bit of wear on multipitch shoes, and so would not need these covers; the shoes that I would want to protect with covers like this would be tighter, downturned models, which I would not be walking in anyway. |  FLAG |
By Locker From Westminster, CO Mar 11, 2013
| Does anyone know the number for Rock and Resole? |  FLAG |
By Kai Larson From Sandy, Utah Mar 11, 2013
| I wouldn't buy these, but if you made a super-lightweight approach/descent shoe, (like the old Sportiva Superfly) I'd buy that. |  FLAG |
By LawHous From colorado springs, CO Mar 11, 2013
| Reginald McChufferton wrote: I hope you're also getting feedback on this idea from other sources. The inmates over at rc.com would even be better than getting advice from this crowd of gumbies and over inflated egos. Not sure if this idea is a winner but I like the way you're headed with it! Keep at it, something will pan out! I appreciate your comment Reginald. I figured as soon as we posted the idea we'd get comments from people whose chests puff out behind a keyboard...... The bottom line, which most people seem to be missing, is that the target demographic is not an aggressive climber. The idea is for your weekend warriors and moderate climbers who wear shoes they can leave on for more than one route. At a recent visit to Shelf we commented how much of a pain it was to have to remove your climb shoes and put on socks/shoes just to walk wall to wall. Whether your a hardcore climber or a moderate one, you most likely spent 80+ bucks on your shoes and would like to save them from pebbles and dirt while moving around. Although I do agree with a lot of you that more than 30 is too much for something that just protects your shoes, you also need to realize the Walk-Off, in theory, is a universal product which would fit many shoe sizes and you could use for years to come. Thanks to those who are giving us legitimate, helpful feedback. |  FLAG |
By CaptainMo Administrator Mar 11, 2013
| Lawrence Housley wrote: I appreciate your comment Reginald. I figured as soon as we posted the idea we'd get comments from people whose chests puff out behind a keyboard...... The bottom line, which most people seem to be missing, is that the target demographic is not an aggressive climber. The idea is for your weekend warriors and moderate climbers who wear shoes they can leave on for more than one route. At a recent visit to Shelf we commented how much of a pain it was to have to remove your climb shoes and put on socks/shoes just to walk wall to wall. Whether your a hardcore climber or a moderate one, you most likely spent 80+ bucks on your shoes and would like to save them from pebbles and dirt while moving around. Although I do agree with a lot of you that more than 30 is too much for something that just protects your shoes, you also need to realize the Walk-Off, in theory, is a universal product which would fit many shoe sizes and you could use for years to come. Thanks to those who are giving us legitimate, helpful feedback. Seriously though, have you thought about these things??? Why is your idea better then these or a pair of closed toed sandals like a Keen? I commend you guys on a good idea. But in response to your comment about it being for gumbies... why would I even care about covering the rubber on my shoes if my shoes are loose comfortable beginner shoes that likely cost little and oh yeah I'm a beginner and don't really care enough about the rubber on my crappy beginner shoes? |  FLAG |
By LawHous From colorado springs, CO Mar 11, 2013
| Because you still have to take off your climbing shoes and sandals are shit for walking on rougher terrain. The Walk-offs are supposed to be approach shoes you slip on over your climb shoes. |  FLAG |
By LawHous From colorado springs, CO Mar 11, 2013
| CaptainMo wrote: Seriously though, have you thought about these things??? Why is your idea better then these or a pair of closed toed sandals like a Keen? I commend you guys on a good idea. But in response to your comment about it being for gumbies... why would I even care about covering the rubber on my shoes if my shoes are loose comfortable beginner shoes that likely cost little and oh yeah I'm a beginner and don't really care enough about the rubber on my crappy beginner shoes? And why does it have to be gumbies that only wear non aggressive climb shoes? I think there are tons of climbers who wear expensive shoes that are worth saving and that aren't aggressive climbers. I know people that have been climbing for over ten years that wear non aggressive shoes and don't like climbing anything over an 11. |  FLAG |
By johnva From ALEXANDRIA Mar 11, 2013
| at a local crag people wear shoe covers to keep sand and dirt off soles between climbs, these range from crocs to galoshes and shoe covers sold at hardward store. All very cheap and light. |  FLAG |
By Jeremy Hand Mar 11, 2013
| I can't remember the brand name but a friend of mine started producing a similar product in the SE.... I haven't heard of any more news since then, nor have I seen more than one pair in the 3 years I've known about them.... just an fyi |  FLAG |
By reboot From Westminster, CO Mar 11, 2013
| Lawrence Housley wrote: And why does it have to be gumbies that only wear non aggressive climb shoes? I think there are tons of climbers who wear expensive shoes that are worth saving and that aren't aggressive climbers. I know people that have been climbing for over ten years that wear non aggressive shoes and don't like climbing anything over an 11. Did you NOT just describe gumbie in the last 2 sentences? Seriously, I like that you guys are trying to come up w/ ideas, but no need to get all defensive about it. As I have pointed out, whether or not this is a useful product, your marketing is all wrong. You don't explicitly state it's a beginner product (because everybody has the disillusion they'll become more than that in short order). You find a specific case that your product may be good for and market the shit out of it. In this case, TC Pro is your friend. It's a flat-sole high performance shoes that's popular w/ gumbies & good climbers. The ankle height lace means it's a PITA to take off & put on. It's expensive so you may want to prolong it's life. It's comfy enough to wear all day long. So, make a strong case for it (so what if you help Sportiva sell more pairs of TC Pros in the process). |  FLAG |
By CaptainMo Administrator Mar 11, 2013
| Sure non aggressive, gumbies whatever - was just recalling ur post so whatever you like. You're saying the issue with flip flops is they suck on the downhill and you have to take your shoes off. Well by that right you have to stop and fit these to your shoes so what's the difference? You're taking away one step and adding another and I say that since stepping into a flip flop isn't really a process or step like putting on sneakers or boots (though I do slide my approach shoes on these days without tieing them so even that take a second. The other thing is that even non aggressive climbing shoes don't have the support or the positioning to be good for descending steep terrain so this product would have to integrate an approach shoe and support onto a climbing shoe to make it any better then just a crapy flip flop. So at that point you're now still putting on a pair of shoes (or something very close to it) but now u just don't have to take your tight ass climbing shoes off.. you can leave those uncomfortable things on. So wait why do I want to leave on these tight climbing shoes? Also I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out how you think this product is actually going to secure to the shoe and not slide around or rotate around the foot as someone smears and traverses on steep slopes or scree. The sole would have to have some actually support and stiffness not to rotate imo. |  FLAG |
By Will S From Joshua Tree Mar 11, 2013
| No, I would not buy it. |  FLAG |
By CaptainMo Administrator Mar 11, 2013
| rogerbenton wrote: would not buy this product regardless of cost. for me wanting to swap shoes for the walk off happens due to comfort issues long before "wear" is a concern. and this is true even in flat comfy "all day trad " shoes. This here really makes the most sense... fundamental problem with the concept. |  FLAG |
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