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Oct 9, 2012
Is it just me or is this a scary sight... beginners inverted rapping...
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EB
From Winona
Joined Jan 1, 2002
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Oct 9, 2012
at least they are wearing helmets and are being backed up from below (kinda)...my buddy did this with no backup and flipped head-first, no injury luckily

they both look like they don't have left arms, what are they doing with the other arm?
skeeter
From Lakewood CA
Joined Aug 15, 2012
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Oct 9, 2012
It would only bother me if they were rapping down where I want to climb. They look pretty safe to me with helmets and fireman's belays. I've seen climbers do much, much worse. Ian Stewart
Joined May 17, 2010
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Oct 9, 2012
EB wrote:
Is it just me or is this a scary sight... beginners inverted rapping...

Aussie style rappelling... It is not that unheard of it, I have even tried it a few times when I was young. I can tell you that it really, really sucks. It is not fun at all. All your weight is put onto your waist which makes you want to pass out. Plus, harnesses are not really designed to be loaded in the back. So is it a death sentence? No, but rappelling the normal way is a lot safer. Anyway, to answer your question, I wouldent be that worried. They will probably quickly realize that not being able to breath sucks.
20 kN
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Oct 9, 2012
Lichen head. Me, with my usual weatherbeaten, lich...
The purpose is so you can shoot people on the way down. It is kind of stupid otherwise. M Sprague
From New England
Joined Nov 9, 2006
5,761 points
Oct 9, 2012
Correct, harnesses are not meant to be loaded in this manner and some have haul loops which are not meant for load. I would hope this was clarified to the beginners, otherwise, yes death sentence. EB
From Winona
Joined Jan 1, 2002
790 points
Oct 9, 2012
Imaginate
How do you tell a beginner rappeller from an expert...? David Appelhans
From Medford, MA
Joined Nov 11, 2007
350 points
Oct 9, 2012
one way is when they say, this is my first time rappelling or climbing... ever... EB
From Winona
Joined Jan 1, 2002
790 points
Oct 9, 2012
The Cathedral Spires in RMNP, left to right: Stile...
David Appelhans wrote:
How do you tell a beginner rappeller from an expert...?


The leg position of the dude on the right is a good indicator. ;)
Marc H
From Lafayette, CO
Joined May 10, 2007
280 points
Oct 9, 2012
The wife and I road-trippin on the Connie.
I had my first encounter with "Sport Rappellers" about 2 months ago. They were all using some variation of a swiss seat tied with 2" webbing and rappeling like this at a local TR crag. The tall point of the cliff is 110 feet. The "guide" among them was wearing what I would takes a fork-lift full body harness, and would make it down that 110 feet in about 5 seconds. He's there trying to teach these 18 year olds to "do it right" by jumping out from the rock in HUGE bounds, throwing the brake end of the rope up & out, basically in free-fall between bounds. No firemans belay.

The climb they were occupying has a bolted anchor, but he didn't trust that, so he had it primarily anchored on a 2' diameter tree 20 or so feet back, backed up on the bolts, and also backed up on the next anchor over (so 4 bolts), Whole anchor built with something that resebled old "gold line"

To top it off, he thought we were insane for using cordolette to extend my anchor over the edge. Spoke up to me about it and said he didn't think i should trust just two bolts or use cord so small (8mm)
Larry S
From Easton, Pennsylvania
Joined May 28, 2010
923 points
Oct 9, 2012
Pinnacle Gully in the background
I saw something similar at the New this past April. These guys were just running laps rappelling as quickly as possible off a 40ish ft overhang meanwhile chain smoking reds. Was pretty rad....... Adam Fernandez
From Matawan NJ
Joined Jul 18, 2011
117 points
Oct 9, 2012
Regardless of their proficiency at rappelling, sport rappellers deserved to be mocked. Dustin Drake
Joined Feb 12, 2012
5 points
Oct 9, 2012
As long as I don't have to carry it out or give it CPR or hold part of it together, it doesn't bother me.

The sketchy soloists I could do without, and the blabbermouths.
John Husky
Joined May 10, 2011
3 points
Oct 11, 2012
Magic Ed
Dustin Drake wrote:
Regardless of their proficiency at rappelling, sport rappellers deserved to be mocked.


Why? Do you really believe that being a climber makes you any better than anyone else???
Ed Wright
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332 points
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Oct 11, 2012
A Very Not Snowy Christmas...
M Sprague wrote:
The purpose is so you can shoot people on the way down. It is kind of stupid otherwise.



+!1
Morgan Patterson
Joined Oct 13, 2009
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Oct 11, 2012
Brass monkey
no. Brassmonkey
Joined Jan 19, 2012
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Oct 11, 2012
M Sprague wrote:
The purpose is so you can shoot people on the way down. It is kind of stupid otherwise.


I havent laughed this hard in a while, thanks man!
S.Stelli
From Colorado Springs, CO
Joined Dec 21, 2009
171 points
Oct 11, 2012
Looks Awesome


ROC
From Englewood, CO
Joined Feb 19, 2003
267 points
Oct 11, 2012
Bocan
More like rappellers at a climbing area in general.

Bound to have something stupid happen when mixing those user groups, one going up and going down.
Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Joined Feb 15, 2006
952 points
Oct 11, 2012
can't help but laugh at the video. David Grahek
From Kill Devil Hills, NC
Joined Aug 3, 2011
3 points
Oct 11, 2012
Pinnacle Gully in the background
Wow...that video is classic. Physics wins again. Adam Fernandez
From Matawan NJ
Joined Jul 18, 2011
117 points
Oct 11, 2012
Colonel Mustard
M Sprague wrote:
The purpose is so you can shoot people on the way down. It is kind of stupid otherwise.


Hmmm... Imma kill your crag dog Aussie style?

It just seems like a bad idea for climbing considering all the stuff you care about on the descent will be located behind you.
Colonel Mustard
Joined Sep 13, 2005
1,382 points
Oct 11, 2012
A) it's abseiling if you're an Aussie,B) if done correctly it's no big deal and C) if you're gonna be a climber you're gonna see some weird sh!t, get over your xenophobic self. Keny Glasscock
From Salt Lake City
Joined Sep 20, 2011
67 points
Oct 11, 2012
Dreamweaver
Keny Glasscock wrote:
A) it's abseiling if you're an Aussie,B) if done correctly it's no big deal and C) if you're gonna be a climber you're gonna see some weird sh!t, get over your xenophobic self.


You sound like a blast to have a beer with. Do you also have an opinion on what exactly a "meme" is?
Dave Bn
From Fort Collins, CO
Joined Jul 13, 2011
15 points
Oct 11, 2012
Colonel Mustard
Dave Bn wrote:
You sound like a blast to have a beer with. Do you also have an opinion on what exactly a "meme" is?


Hahahaha... good one. Anybody who disputes what, exactly, a meme is should abseil into an active volcano. Don't stop until your handlebar mustache is burning. Crap, I guess that would include my avatar. Goodbye, avatar.
Colonel Mustard
Joined Sep 13, 2005
1,382 points
Oct 11, 2012
Yeee Haaaa!!!!! skiclimber
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