End of the Innocence variation 

What bolts do you clip? Is it hard to reach right (or left?) to clip?

I used the bolts to the right on "End" and it was easy to clip.

Isn't this type of "squeezing in" reserved for toprope routes at the Lake? To climb a "route" between two already closely spaced lines, such that you could clip the bolts on either of the other routes seems a bit like pushing it to me, but whatever, you had fun right? I guess next time I'm there I'll have to give it a go...

It really wasn't a squeeze James. You can't reach the bolts on "Curse", only 2 of them are near you during the route. It is simply a direct route of "End". It stays very close to the bolts on "End". I didn't have to try to stay away from "Curse", but for those tempted to take the easy way, I put the "x" marks in the photo to keep you on track. And yes, it was alot of fun.

John,

I was there when "The End" and "Curse" were being put in, we climbed your variation on Toprope and we decided it was best to keep the routes more spaced out. As it is the "The End" and "Curse" are relatively close. I don't want to get into a big flame-fest with you about this so I sent you a PM.

Cheers,
James

Not to add to the fire but this is pretty much the same route just a little left. I usually climb this route and always considered it the "End" and at the same time I see people mix it up between this "route" and the "End" often, especially when it is their first time on the "End". Seems like this maybe this should be listed as a variation of the "End" on it's page and not listed as a completely separate route.

2 cents

Erik,

The fire was put out long ago. And I did list it as a variation of end instead of a direct route. But it clearly is a completely different beginning. "End" is climbed to the right of the bolts. The variation is climbed to the left of the bolts. I dont see how you think it is the same climb. The end is the same, therefore making it a variation.