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Alligator Wall 

5.9+

   

FA: 1st TR: Tommy Deutchler, 1st Lead: Rich Bechler & Dave Groth
Type: Trad, TR
Consensus: 5.9+ [details]
Length: 1 pitch, 80 feet
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Submitted By: John W. Knoernschild on Jul 12, 2007


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BETA PHOTO: Red line is Alligator Wall

Dotted line is Dancing...



Description 

Follow up to the over hang, follow it to the left, go up over the overhang and finish on face to top.


Location 

Right inbetween Chez's Chimney and Dancing Madly Backwards. It follows the same start as Dancing Madly backwards, but when you get to the large roof, continue left with laybacks to pull small overhang and continue on quartzite pebbles to top.


Protection 

Good trees to sling on top



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By Dmitriy Litvak
From: chicago, illinois
Jul 23, 2007

Has anyone led this route recently and can comment on gear?

By Burt Lindquist
From: Madison, WI
Oct 23, 2007

The gear is the same as for Dancing Madly Backwards for the first 20 feet. Mid sized (small hand sized) 4 cams in the spaces present where the rock is featured with the odd discontinues flakes and jugs. Do not place gear behind the flake top that sits just left and below the left most corner of the overhang. It is somewhat detached and loose/fragile. Above the loose flake and in the corner crack formed by the left facing corner that forms the overhang low down you can get nice larger four cam placements and maybe hexes or larger tricams. Above this there is little or no gear for a good 10-15 stretch unless one traverses left a bit and ties off the large softball shape rock nugget/pebble that is stuck in the rock. Makes a great hand hold too this pebble but it is somewhat left of the natural direct line of Alligator. There a few spots near the top one can get small TCU os C3 in horizontals.

By John W. Knoernschild
From: Hartland, WI
Jun 29, 2008

Comparing this climb to say Mammalary Magic, I'd have to say this climb is a bit harder. Way more physical at the bottom of the climb. Then moving up to small crimps and feet to finish it off. I would give it a 5.10a rating. The holds are as small as Mammalary at top, and more vertical.

I submitted it at 5.9+ to stick with what the guide book says.

Anyone know the FA?

By Steve Sangdahl
From: eldo sprngs,co
Jul 1, 2008

fa = dlfa

By John W. Knoernschild
From: Hartland, WI
Jul 2, 2008

Thx Steve

By Steve Sangdahl
From: eldo sprngs,co
Jul 2, 2008

tr fa the infamous tommy d.
first lead. rich and dave