why EVERYONE who climbs should ALWAYS wear a helmet
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An interesting study on motorcycle helmet use and the money saved in helath care costs by states which have mandatory helmet laws due to reduced hospitalization injury treatment here |
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based on that logic, EVERYONE should be forced to stop drinking, smoking (anything), eating anything other than fruits and vegetables. |
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How would you enforce the law? What is defined as "climbing"? Does bouldering count? How far off the ground? Would 18 year olds walking on brick walls or in a tree be cited? There are too many grey areas to police. |
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what about wearing one in the harding slot? seems like a choking hazard.... |
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There are a lot of holes in that study. |
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Wayne Crill wrote:The obvious logical extension is that the government should enforce mandatory helmet laws for climbers as well since it will save them money.By this logic, don't you think the government should also ban BASE jumping? It's dangerous and occasionally costs taxpayers money. I'm not actually advocating for this because I'm a jumper myself, as I know you are. I'm just curious to know why you think we should embark on this slippery slope. |
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Wayne, you should be required by law to wear a helmet at all times having had a concussion once. I will submit a bill to the state legislature next session. And no milkshakes or popcorn for you, either. New York City is right on. None of you can be trusted. |
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Marc H wrote: By this logic, don't you think the government should also ban BASE jumping? It's dangerous and occasionally costs taxpayers money. I'm not actually advocating for this because I'm a jumper myself, as I know you are. I'm just curious to know why you think we should embark on this slippery slope.I'm with you. The government should ban hiking because the rescues done on hikers far exceeds any cost for climber rescues. Stay indoors kids, it's just not safe out there anymore... |
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dr. thrill, |
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Stich wrote:Also, everyone that thinks Wayne is serious, I think you need to apply for a license to read the Internet.Regardless of whether or not he's serious, there are way too many people in this country that follow the line of thinking that he's describing. The legislation you mentioned proposed by the Almighty Bloomberg is a perfect example of this. It's really getting out of control. |
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Crill u messing around. Now wait a minute. Inaudible noise. Thats better, now I have my helmet on. Back to reckless motorcycle riding. |
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I tend to frown upon any mandatory laws........ however, I do think wearing a helmet is a good idea, and I have actually started to wear one more frequently....... Although hardly ever in any OWs for obvious reasons........ |
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lets see now how can I ......got the pot..............got a spoon....OK here we go lets see how this works out..... |
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My approach is that I can do what I want. If I know that it is illegal not to wear a helmet, but I go climbing without one I have accepted the fact that the government might throw a stick at me. I quit getting mad about foolish laws awhile ago, I can't change them sure don't mean I have to follow them. |
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also of note... Ride motorcycles in Idaho... No helmet laws! Most fun I have ever had on a bike. |
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It's too late for us, but perhaps science will develop a way to alter our genetic makeup so future generations are born with helmet-like heads. After all, it's not just climbing that is dangerous. Heck, LIFE is dangerous!!! |
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The Dread Pirate Killis wrote:The Patriot Act was a premeditated murder of effective freedom in the middle part of this continent, the details I'm not losing sleep over. Any candidate runs on a platform of repealing the entire shebang first day in office, pass/fail, I'm registering to vote again.Time to register Gary Johnson |
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2nd the BD 1/2 dome, don't always wear it though. I don't think elena sera ever wore a helmet and it shows, maybe too many concussions |
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Agree that wearing it all the time would be your best bet, but I think it's personal choice. I'd like to see it become part of the culture. Take road and mountain biking - you're a real oddball if you aren't wearing a helment (I don't mean riding around town). I wish we didn't lean so much on the law here in the states - do it because it's smart - if you die cuz you didn't then so be it. |
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alexdavis wrote:Moreover, I'm willing to bet it costs a hell of a lot more keeping someone on life support or even going through just a few surgeries after he helmet saved their life, than burying the person. Far more likely to be in the latter situation without a helmet.Worth repeating. The study missed this part. |
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