Who else would like to see more wide cams on the market?
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Half size's in the wider stuff! More variety for gods sake so we can protect cracks using the correct size unit instead of a tipped out cam waiting to train track its way into my face. |
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This is kind of covered in the new BD cams thread. Maybe write BD/Fixie/Camp/whoever a letter telling them? |
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Mia would like to see that. But she is climbing wide cracks at the moment and hence cannot type this. |
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Haha Stich!!!! Too much rain at the moment...... |
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We got rained out of Elevenmile twice today, once at the mouth of the canyon and later way back near the dam. Good to have rains finally. There are still smoking areas visible just uphill from 24. |
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Stich |
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Greg G wrote:Half size's in the wider stuff! More variety for gods sake so we can protect cracks using the correct size unit instead of a tipped out cam waiting to train track its way into my face. Who's with me? The plethora of tiny stuff on the market is absurd. Let's round it out by bringing back the good stuff.They exist. They are called Valley Giants. I believe they come in 9" and 12" versions. But indeed there is a pretty limited number of options for protecting wide offwidths, and a few more cam options would be nice. valleygiant.com/ |
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Im for small stuff at least around front range im a firm believer in up to size #3 larger size cams have their place in the desert cracks mostly. |
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Greg G wrote: The plethora of tiny stuff on the market is absurd.not really since there are an exponential more amount of routes that use small stuff. That being said +1 on Valley Giants, or making your own. Not really like you need non ridgid stems |
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use nuts problem solved |
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Jeremy Hand wrote:use nuts problem solvedGreat idea!!!! I should have thought of that too. Nuts of every size......... Everything from 5 inches to 20 inches, and half sizes.......heck even quarter sizes!!!! You are onto something here! |
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wired bliss makes a 9 inch cam that fits between a 6 camalot and a VG9 |
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Just throwing this out there partly as a feeler and partly to show how small a market it is... what would you be willing to pay for a wide cam? |
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Aric I have often thought about making my own big cams. Because all the cool things like offset and wire stem, weight. Those go out the door. So since seeing a thread on here that some kid made a cam in machine shop I have thought about making my own. Solid stem, not too much to go wrong on. I would whip on one. But then my climbing buddy calls me hazard for a reason. |
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Ethan Henderson wrote:wired bliss makes a 9 inch cam that fits between a 6 camalot and a VG9Citation needed. |
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Mia, I would have enjoyed climbing with the RCCC this weekend, had the weather cooperated. Veedaewoo sometime soon. Hopefully Bob will grant us Colorado folk permission to play in his backyard. |
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I know that WB was planning to make big cams. They even had some of the parts made and posted the pics on FB. However, I do not know if they ever actually got around to making them. I don't think that they did. I exchanged e-mails with the owner, Michael, in October '11. At that time he provided me with the following info on the sizing of the new cams.: |
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Pondered this a couple days, and figured wth.... If there's enough interest in them I might be able to be talked into knocking out a small run of big cams. IIRC I have +/-8 feet of 6" wide by 0.250" thick 6061-T6 sitting on the shelf that was purchased for this sort of thing years ago, and I'm tired of looking at it. Probably some 4" and 5" as well. Would have to get consensus on size, single/double axle, rigid/single/U-stem and whatnot, at which point I could run the costing. I've got a CNC machine shop in the basement, so while possible to do it all with a hacksaw and file I'd instead take the easy route. Heck, for the right price I'd even dig out the anodizing tank and make them all pretty. Oh, and obviously they'd be proof tested to some agreed upon load... |
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Would only be interested in one that was mid-range at ~7", so probably in the 5.5-9 ballpark. At that size, weight becomes more important than range, so I'd think single axle...but would be curious to see what the weight difference would amount to...double axle might perform better as a "pusher" piece, at least the 6 camalot is easier to push than the 6 friend (whether that is due to head width, axle design, spring tension, or something else is a question I can't answer) |
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Would have to check my notes, but IIRC 6" stock is plenty for a 9" cam. And I'll do whatever there's interest in, provided it's at least 4 or 5 per size so I don't lose weeks in programming a dozen different cams... |