Which aiders should I get?
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I've never done any aid climbing. I'm looking to buy aiders and start practicing with the goal of doing a few classic big walls. Before I drop the coin for aiders I want to make sure I'm getting the right thing. |
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The Fish ones are pretty sweet, I like how the steps are all stitched off of the same side because I think it makes it hang cleaner and it's easier to get your feet into. |
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For most aid all you need is two aiders. Therefore, buy Yates or Fish ladders. |
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I think Chris McNamara's content is pretty good. I have used Fish before, but when I need something quick I mail order somewhere else. Just bought Metolius Aiders, they are good. I also buy made in the USA when I can. Makes me feel good. |
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the metolius are just ok. due to their design they get snagged on each other when you are pulling them through and they twist up a fair bit, especially if your using 4. |
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Fish, no doubt and Russ may even be back from Holidays by now. |
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There's only one FISH!!!!! |
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Once you go Spreader bar, you'll never go back. So either get Yates, or Fish with the spreader bar. |
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I used etriers for years before i figured out they were crap and switched to the ladder style. if you go the 2 aider method ladders are the only way to go. i'm partial to the yates. |
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For climbs like the Nose and NW Face of Half Dome, the metolius pocket aiders are great. The clip on your harness and out of the way when free climbing and easy to deploy if you need to go into full on aid mode. They are not very comfy which encourages you to move fast. |
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Thanks for weighing in, folks! I think I'll try to get a pair of fish aiders. We'll see how that goes. I'm not sure if his order form on the site works. |
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Have to put a belated support for Yates Big Wall Ladders. They take a beating without blinking. |
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Why specifically are the BD aiders not so great? |
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The BD aiders don't collapse well, the fabric it too stiff and gets fuzzy quickly. These issues combine to make them snag easily on gear/rock/etc. Good aiders like the Yates ladders are silky smooth, hang open when you need them to and collapse easily as you yank them up. |
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Robbie Flick wrote:Why specifically are the BD aiders not so great?They're decent if all your going to do is jug, but for leading where you want some "maneuverability" they aren't nearly as nice as the open rung Metolius, Fish, or Luke's new stuff. You want something with open rungs because contrary to popular belief aiding can be strenuous at times, and the last thing you want is to be struggling just to but your foot in the ladder. |
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get a pair with the spreader in them. I have the yates and love them. |
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Yates big wall ladders.. love them would never go back to non-spreader bar style. |