By Jon Marek Jan 30, 2012
| My girlfriend and I are moving this fall, here is our list of places we are considering. 1. Coeur d Alene, Id / Spokane, Wa 2. Bend, Or 3. SLC, Ut 4. Ft. Collins, Co 5. Missoula, Mt 6. Boise, Id We have only been to and climbed in two of these cities. What would be your order of best to worst? Any of these cities just suck to live in? Any thoughts? |  FLAG |
By Dylan Colon From Eugene, OR Jan 30, 2012
| While I haven't been to about half of these, I'd think that one of your primary considerations would have to be your personal preference for city size. While some people would find a big city like SLC to be stiflingly large and overwhelming, other people might be bored in a smaller town. It's hard to recommend one of these cities without knowing what your size preference is, considering the pretty large variation in the list you've provided. |  FLAG |
By Mark Wyss From Denver, CO Jan 30, 2012
| Just curious, why would you consider Fort Collins and not Boulder? |  FLAG |
By FrankPS From Atascadero, CA Jan 30, 2012
| Is being employed a consideration? If so, wouldn't you look for the job first? If not, congratulations! |  FLAG |
By Forsty From Fort Collins, CO Jan 30, 2012
| I live in Fort Collins, but have not been to the other places so this may not be of much use. That being said, Fort Collins is a great place to live with climbing easily accessed, although a bit farther than if you were in Boulder. I have been to Boulder many times, and it is not for me. I know many people who love it, but I just cant hop on that train. The Fort is really easy going and has treated me outstandingly well for the couple years I have lived here. Just my 2 cents. |  FLAG |
By Cory From Boise, ID Jan 30, 2012
| Moved from LA to Boise about 7 months ago. Loving it so far! Got any more specific questions? |  FLAG |
By BackCountry From West Point, UT Jan 30, 2012
| I've spent time in each of these places, and my personal preference would be as follows: 1. SLC 2. Spokane 3. Bend 4. Missoula 5. Boise 6. Ft. Collins |  FLAG |
By Nick Votto Jan 30, 2012
| Here's some plus's for each of the cities I've been to, great list though..... 1. SLC- world class skiing and climbing right next door and much more within few hours drive, not sure about the party scene but I don't generally like the "rules" in Utah 2. Bend- Great smaller city, good beers and good food...from what I understand its expanding somewhat rapidly....amazing backpacking and hiking in the area but I can't speak for the climbing 3. Missoula- my favorite area of my favorite state, amazing scenery, backpacking, fly fishing, skiing, etc.....from what I understand there's some climbing too, I did some great granite bouldering in the area and saw lots of route potential .....less people and NOT many jobs at all 4. Coeur d Alene- not much in the surrounding areas but lots if you drive a bit, can't speak for the climbing or the scene 5. Boise- heard its a great city, I've climbed at City of Rocks and skied in the Sawtooth backcountry and both were absolutely amazing... 6.Ft Collins- no comments |  FLAG |
By Zirkel From Bishop, CA Jan 31, 2012
| Each of the above cities shine in their own set of attributes (with the exception of Spokane), as highlighted above by Nick. I've been through all, and recently spent two years climbing and going to school in SLC - And LOVED it! From diversity of climbing to jobs to social and cultural amenities to a cheap cost of living, Salt Lake is tough to beat. LCC, BCC, Uintas, American Fork, Maple, Joes, Indian Creek, City of Rocks all lie within a reasonable drive. And I've never before appreciated easy airport access until living in Salt Lake. The primary downside, I found, was the Winter smog inversion that blanketed the valley. Additionally, the traffic sucked. The LDS influence to my social life was surprisingly minimal. |  FLAG |
By Wade Frank From Littleton, CO Jan 31, 2012
| Jon Marek wrote: My girlfriend and I are moving this fall, here is our list of places we are considering. 1. Coeur d Alene, Id / Spokane, Wa 2. Bend, Or 3. SLC, Ut 4. Ft. Collins, Co 5. Missoula, Mt 6. Boise, Id We have only been to and climbed in two of these cities. What would be your order of best to worst? Any of these cities just suck to live in? Any thoughts? Ft. Collins all the way, you are in your 20's why not live in a sweet college town that is close to any outdoor activity you could possible want to participate in, and you are with a bunch of people that are like minded!!! I'm a Colorado native and I have been to most of the places on your list and while they are awesome places I am always happy to be home in Colorado! |  FLAG |
By Tony B From Around Boulder, CO Jan 31, 2012
| Before you go and locate, you might want to consider a road-trip. It is far easier to find a job in the town you love than build a town you love around a location you have selected. PS - Fort Collins isn't bad. I don't like Boulder Proper so much, so I live in Erie... 20 minutes away from Boulder, 30 minutes from Bocan, Eldo, The Flat Irons, the St Vrain... 45 min from Table Mountain (as if I liked it... but some do), an hour from Lumpy, RMNP, The Big Thompson Canyon, Clear Creek Canyon, Castlewood Canyon (repeat Table Mountain comment), and the fantasic climbing around Empire (Ra, Halidome). Tack on another 20-40 minutes and I'm anywhere in the South Platte. Point being, you don't have to live in any "city proper" that you don't like. Any of your other destinations has alternatives as well. I'd have considered Vegas if it were not so damn hot there in the summer. |  FLAG |
By lewisslc From Salt Lake City, Ut Jan 31, 2012
| SLC is a great place to live, Incredible climbing which ever direction you choose to turn. Like stated, the inversion is terrible and ugly. Cost of living is unbelievable, and the majority of people living in SLC are not LDS (to find that you need to travel to the suburbs, I.E., West valley, West and South Jordan, ect...); city life is suprisingly liberal, and the art scene, if you know where to look, is wonderful. SLC would be a great choice. |  FLAG |
By mozeman Jan 31, 2012
| Coeur d Alene is an awesome central location to access places like index, lavenworth, and the Si's for a weekend (or long day) trip. as well as close(r) access to several places b/c its right off of I-90 Same kind of goes for bozeman (which i prefer over missoula)and has everything you could want, small crags, 3+ season snow sports (if motivated, I knew people who found places to ski in the middle of august), alpine is only a few hours away in every direction, good water, and awesome fly fishing For climbing specifically tho, there are much better locations |  FLAG |
By jordan cocanower From Estes Park, CO Jan 31, 2012
| 1. Ft collins 2. squamish 3. Chatanooga 4. Bend 5.estes park |  FLAG |
By Josh Kornish Jan 31, 2012
| Missoula is a great place to live. The job market may not be the greatest but the outdoor opportunities make up for it. Missoula is actually right in the hub of some great climbing. There are 15 areas all within an hour of Missoula. Here are some of the best: 1) Blodgett Canyon: Bigwall, Trad, Sport,Bouldering. Exeptional rock quality. Blodgett Canyon Wikipedia 2) Lost Horse Canyon: Bouldering, Trad. Best bouldering and cracks in the state. 3)Kootenai Creek: Trad, Sport. The most popular area due to it's proximity to Missoula. Great climbing. 4)Lolo Pass: Trad, Sport, Bouldering. A lifetime of rock climbing exists here. It has largely been forgotten due to the destruction and restoration of road. Insane amount of rock. 5) Mill Creek: Bigwall, Trad, Sport, Ticks. Varied rock quality from excellent to decent. Lots of new developement going in. 6) Rattler and Mulkey Gulch: Limestone sport. Pretty fun areas Others: (all within an hour) Bass Creek Bear Creek Big Creek Alberton Rest Stop Sweathouse Creek Sheafman Creek Roaring Lion Creek Lake Como Skalkao Pass Canyon Creek Kim Williams Trail choss pile Butte Area Climbing (tons) Despite the common misconception Missoula is home to some great rock climbing. You just need some local info Spokane is sweet but way overcrowded at the crags Mill Creek Blog |  FLAG |
By John Rogers From USA Jan 31, 2012
| This may take a little time but try this: Get a map of the west (colorado to california, montana to arizona) and pin it to your wall. Place push pins into each area that there is climbing. Place a large push pin into each area you are thinking of moving. Measure out three pieces of string: one that equals 50 miles, one that equals 150 miles, and one that equals 300 miles. With each area you want to live, make circles (one for each string) around each area, kind of like a bulls eye. Now, consider this: The small circle is places you can travel within an hour of where you live. These are places you can get to after work. The middle circle represents places that can be good day trips. The outer circle represents places you can get to with a half days drive, and are weekend destinations. Outside the circles are places that are road trips. If you want to maxamize your climbing options, this will help you decide. While not on your list, Grand Junction CO. seems to be the perfect place for the climber, skier, mountaineer, kayaker, and mountain biker. |  FLAG |
By Will S From Joshua Tree Jan 31, 2012
| John Rogers wrote: While not on your list, Grand Junction CO... +1. I've always been surprised that GJ doesn't make these lists more often. The access to climbing is awesome. When I lived in so-central UT, some coworkers lived in Junction and it seemed perfect to me. You have easy access to Moab/IC, Rifle, the Black, Ouray, the Swell, and multi pitch granite and good sandstone bouldering in Unaweep right outside GJ itself. Worth a look for sure. Out of your list, other things will come into play, like: Do you ski and/or ice climb? Is fly fishing on the agenda? Etc. |  FLAG |
By martinharris From Glenwood Springs CO Jan 31, 2012
| There are no jobs in fort Collins so if work is important and you have nothing lined up go elsewhere |  FLAG |
By Jon Marek Jan 31, 2012
| Thanks for all the responses already. Grand Junction...we might have to add that to the list, I had a great spring break there several years ago and I am thinking about doing more ice once we move. We are primarily concerned about climbing (any style, hopefully a lot of everything!) but access to NPS land is important. Access to other outdoor sports is awesome but climbing is numero uno. |  FLAG |
By Nick Stayner From The Magic City Jan 31, 2012
| Just FYI, try searching. This topic has got to be one of the top 10 Mountain Project threads of all time and I'm sure you'll find some useful info on some of these places in older threads. Good luck! I would suggest Bozeman over Missoula if you have the choice too. |  FLAG |
By Alex Swan From West Jan 31, 2012
| Nick Stayner wrote: Just FYI, try searching. This topic has got to be one of the top 10 Mountain Project threads of all time and I'm sure you'll find some useful info on some of these places in older threads. Good luck! I would suggest Bozeman over Missoula if you have the choice too. Bozeman may have world class Ice but the rock climbing around Missoula is far superior that coming from a Bozeman native. Bozeman definitely has better ice and skiing though |  FLAG |
By cdelu From Yucca Valley, Ca Jan 31, 2012
| My husband and I moved to Bend, Oregon for about 9 months. The only work we could find was seasonal answering phones at Christmas, okay if you love sitting for 8 hours a day and burning through your savings. Dry climate but weeks with no sun and highs in the -8 range. Beautiful, great beer, fun bars. Climbing at Smith was beautiful but choss pile, much better trad climbing across the river. Just my opinion. |  FLAG |
By Jon Marek Feb 2, 2012
| Is there any climbing near Bend other than Smtih Rocks? |  FLAG |
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