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Jun 18, 2014
I live in San Diego and am trying to find a copy of Hidden Treasures East: Big Bear Basin. It doesn't look like it's being printed anymore. Does anyone know where I can get a new or used copy? Or another book that covers the Big Bear area. Thanks!

- Owen
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It's out of print, good luck finding one. I seen one on eBay last year and it went for $275. Frank Pudding
From South El Monte, CA
Joined May 8, 2013
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$275!?!?! damn I should've stock piled on that book when I bought it. Jan Tarculas
From Riverside, Ca
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RNclimber wrote:
$275!?!?! damn I should've stock piled on that book when I bought it.


Right? I'm kicking myself in the ass for not getting one when they had them at the visitor center
Frank Pudding
From South El Monte, CA
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Jun 20, 2014
I think I have a copy at home that you can borrow (not have!). If you're interested I can take a look for it. Tram
From San Diego, CA
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Jun 20, 2014
Hidden Treasures East is going for that much? - How much is the original Hidden Treasures going for...you know the one with ALL the areas.. Roots
From Tustin, CA
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Jun 22, 2014
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I have Southern California Sport Climbing 3rd Edition by Troy Mayr (which sucks btw). It has Holcomb Valley, but not even that much of it, Keller Peak, and some of Frustration Creek. There's a lot of miss information in there, however. It gets me around and I've penned in a bunch of routes/notes. If you're looking to climb at other areas around Big Bear you're out of luck though. Matt Michael
From Clovis, CA
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Jun 22, 2014
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The content here on MP, while not 100% complete, is pretty good. Are there specific areas you are interested in that are missing here? Euan Cameron
From Redlands and Mammoth Lakes
Joined Jan 16, 2007
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Jun 23, 2014
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Euan, do you have any info on the lower dinosaur rock south face climbs at Keller Peak?...or the upper dinosaur rock climbs?

Thanks
The Freehlings
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Jun 23, 2014
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Matt Michael wrote:
I have Southern California Sport Climbing 3rd Edition by Troy Mayr (which sucks btw). It has Holcomb Valley, but not even that much of it, Keller Peak, and some of Frustration Creek. There's a lot of miss information in there, however. It gets me around and I've penned in a bunch of routes/notes. If you're looking to climb at other areas around Big Bear you're out of luck though.



Matt.... I think Troy, had completly quit climbing by the time Holcome Valley (those tiny little stones)were becoming developed.

So that is why it (the GB) "sucks"....maybe????

After climbing at Willie for so many years,and finding out that all the other spots are below average in quality, Troy just sort of lost interest in climbing.

That book is better than nothing.

So have you "Penned in a bunch of routes/notes" on MP?



Guy Keesee
From Moorpark, CA
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Jun 23, 2014
Troy's book just has the basics. (area introduction if you will)

A lot of the Holcomb routes were around when Troy wrote the 1st edition.

Coyote Crags, aka Big Bear Pinnacles was not a popular destination. It only become that way once Williamson closed.

I remember going on the weekends and having it all to ourselves. I mean...who else would drive all that way for such short routes? ; )
Roots
From Tustin, CA
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Jun 23, 2014
Has anyone checked out this guide?
supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2...

It covers a lot of areas so I am curious how much detail each has.
Steve_Sil.
From Los Angeles, CA
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Jun 23, 2014
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ROOTS SAID

"I remember going on the weekends and having it all to ourselves. I mean...who else would drive all that way for such short routes? ; )"


Me to, HVP are a pretty nice place to climb.

I know many of the locals were really bent out of shape when Hidden Treasures first came out.

I think guide books are a good thing.... spreads out the crowds.

Guy Keesee
From Moorpark, CA
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From South El Monte, CA
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Jun 28, 2014
Steve_Sil. wrote:
Has anyone checked out this guide? supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2... It covers a lot of areas so I am curious how much detail each has.



I have this guidebook. It covers a lot of SoCal climbing areas but there isn't much detail on each one. Barely anything on Holcomb Valley. Its useful overall, but not really as a stand-alone guide.
e.bomba
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Publication of a new guidebook to an area frequented only by "locals" is always controversial. This goes back all the way into the late 1800's. Back then, when the luminaries of the Climbing Club in the UK debated the issue they concluded that, assuming that the crowds are inevitable, the best way forward is to publish a guide, which not only includes guidance for routes, but also environmental and ethical considerations. I say that a, sanctioned by the locals, guidebook is now essential for this area, especially considering the number of people who now frequent the area. I am assuming that "Hidden Treasures" is now out of print and unlikely to be back in print. Chris Owen
From Big Bear Lake
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Jan 5, 2016
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I remember a thread coming up on here saying the author had a new version coming out Jan. 2016 time frame. Any chance anyone knows when it's supposed to be released? Justin. S
From Big Bear City, CA
Joined Feb 17, 2014
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Jan 5, 2016
Not a new version, just some more copies to be printed. I'm assuming Brad will make a post on here when they are ready. drjman
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Jan 5, 2016
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Thanks for the clarification, I'm working on a PDF version for the area basically bottom of the mountain to the top but it takes forever, cudos to the guys who spend the long hours/years making the actual guides. Justin. S
From Big Bear City, CA
Joined Feb 17, 2014
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Jan 5, 2016
Justin. S wrote:
Thanks for the clarification, I'm working on a PDF version for the area basically bottom of the mountain to the top but it takes forever, cudos to the guys who spend the long hours/years making the actual guides.


Something like this?

dropbox.com/sh/6jn25zhai138o8k...

Someone else created that to begin with, but I cleaned it up and added proper formatting and headings (makes the pdf easily navigable on mobile). I also added the height for each route (kind of important).

Feel free to use that. Its just a compilation of what's on MP. Even though Brad is getting the book reprinted, its still going to be out of date.

However useful Mountain Project is, nothing beats having an actual guidebook.
drjman
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Jan 6, 2016
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Something like that but I'm going to go out and take some better picture while on route and stuff like that. I'm about to have some large amounts of free time and I live on the mountain so I figured I would contribute. I don't know how to bolt so can't really help there, willing to chip in for some new hardwear when it's needed though. Justin. S
From Big Bear City, CA
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