what else do i need?

alright, so ive been building the rack up for about a year and a half now, and am wondering what else i need to get? probably tricams but what else? so far my rack of gear consists of;
1 set of BD camalots .4-#3
1 complete set of TCU's
1 extra metolius #3
1 flexstem friend, i have no clue what size, blue sling
1 full set of BD stoppers
4 hexes, i think #4-#8
13 quickdraws
bookoo's of slings, extra biners,
nut tool
Reverso
6 or so extra lockers
autobloc, and
cordelette
so, what else do i need?

A rope.

Maybe some brass nuts (micro stoppers) and some type of 5" peice. If you need anything else, find a partner with it and use theirs.

skip the tricams, you might want to get some doubles in the .5-2 range of c4s. otherwisse, just climb with someone who has a full rack too, and borrow their shit.

if you're doing much sport climbing it's sweet to take a pair of long draws like those petzls you have and toss a locker on one end and then BAM you have yourself insta top anchor setup, if that makes sense? I've got a pair and use them all the time. and ya like ^ said, a set of brassies might be nice but depends what kinda rock you're climbing.

Just climb a lot. If you find yourself on some heinous runout cursing yourself for not having _____ piece of protection, then assuming you get down in one piece, buy that. (How I ended up with a BD C4 #4)

In all seriousness, your rack is basically what I have and I haven't found the need to add to it, since I generally climb with people that also have racks. If between you and your partner you have doubles of all the cams, nuts, and hexes, you should be fine 98% of the time. (I DO have tricams pink->blue, and love them. They are particularly useful in NH. Stick with the smaller ones.)

-Chris

I use a #4 camalot ALL the time.

Are you serious?!! You don't need anything except to climb. You got enough gear to climb 90% of the routes on the planet. Your gear is super shiny, too. You should spend more time climbing, less time buying gear. I might be sounding like a bit of a jerk. But, I'm being totally serious.

The best way to grow your rack from here will be route specific. If you come across a route that you really want to do but you feel your rack is deficient for that specific route, then you buy the appropriate piece(s). Otherwise, you've got just about everything you need for most routes.

Not a thing.

Greg D is correct - what you NEED are some scratches on all that gear. Lots of scratches.

yeah i know its all fairly shiny, i really havent been able to climb at all this winter, we got around 50" of snow, and i got quite a bit of my gear in the past few months, usually we are able to climb through most of the winter, last winter i only had the stoppers and i think the #1, mostly borrowed, so the majority of everything is close to new, if not brand new....i'm going to work on it, seneca has been calling me to make the hop across the mountain to it...

The best advice is to go out and go climbing. Then, you'll know what you want.

I would want a #4 BD and doubles of .75, 1, 2, but that depends largely on where you climb...as does your opinion of tricams.

Experience will teach you what you need.

Evan

You need to climb so your gear doesn't look all shiny and new!

If you u have the cash Doubles DB .75 to #3 and a nother set of nuts.

Evan1984 wrote:The best advice is to go out and go climbing. Then, you'll know what you want. I would want a #4 BD and doubles of .75, 1, 2, but that depends largely on where you climb...as does your opinion of tricams. Experience will teach you what you need. Evan

Evan (and others) is exactly right, even thought I completely disagree on the particulars.

All those folks saying "you might need doubles in your cams and a #4" - yet where I started climbing (in New England) what I would have needed if I had your rack is more nuts, some tricams, and a half set of hexes.

This is why everyone's saying you just need to get out and climb. Putting some miles on that rack is the only thing that will teach you what you need more of.

GO

Keenan Waeschle wrote:skip the tricams, you might want to get some doubles in the .5-2 range of c4s.

I agree. Save your money and slowly add more cams to your rack.

Also, offset nuts are a good supplement to the standard BD Stoppers.

Gunkiemike wrote:Greg D is correct - what you NEED are some scratches on all that gear. Lots of scratches.

+1 This was basically my first thought...... What you "need" is to use that stuff.....a lot.

Here ya go on what you need. Pick the local routes you hear about folks bailing from frequently. Get the route wired then keep going back to police the booty everyone else leaves behind. Poof! insta-rack.

With the full set of TCU's and a mostly-complete set of C4's, I wouldn't really buy any more cams at all, unless you're gonna get some really small stuff (C3's) or the really big C4's. No point in buying it until you start wishing you had it though.

The only thing I can think of that you're missing (as a WV/VA traddie) would be some more dedicated alpine draws/trad/draws/extendable runners (i.e. take a shoulder-length sling, I like the 10mm Mammut slings, slap 2 lightweight wiregates on it, and triple it onto itself). They come in very handy on all the moderate routes at Seneca that tend to wander around. You'll notice that once you start clipping gear, especially passive pro, on quickdraws, as you climb past your placements they'll frequently walk themselves right out of the rock. It's unnerving as hell when your one piece of pro in the last 20 feet goes skittering down towards your belayer!