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By Princess Mia
From Vail
Jul 26, 2012
Chillin' at City of Rocks

I'm an outdoor enthusiast!!! Sometimes I get really lucky and actually get paid for it. No office work for me!

Alt - tab???? Don't even know what that means........lol


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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Jul 26, 2012
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.

Princess Mia wrote:
No office work for me!


Accept when you are doing statistical analysis. Ha ha ha.


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By Chris Miller
Jul 26, 2012

Javier Licon wrote:
I'm with mitchy. Get in the medical field. Nursing, respiratory therapy, paramedic, etc. If you're really motivated aim for an MD, PA, or NP degree. Thing is you'll have to sacrifice a couple years for school/training. Or, get good at sales. I had a roommate who could slack off most of the month then make a bunch of deals happen in a matter of days (sometimes hours). Then his boss was off his back for a few weeks.

Second that. I went from skydiving bum to ICU nurse. Now I'm addicted to buying gear and complaining about no good dirty worthless democrats.


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By APBT1976
From Never never land...
Jul 26, 2012
Black Dike 12/25/11

Princess Mia wrote:
I'm an outdoor enthusiast!!! Sometimes I get really lucky and actually get paid for it. No office work for me! Alt - tab???? Don't even know what that means........lol


Yeah Alt-tab meant nothing to me other than i could put two and two together. Well barely lol..

Not sure how you can love the outdoors and be republican but that's just me. Depending on how you choose to look at it us all being different could be a good or bad thing?


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By JoeR
From Eugene, OR
Jul 26, 2012

Outdoor Educator here. Basically a dirtbag job though, so maybe you didn't want to hear from me.

I post shit on websites because it the only way to relieve the pressure buildup from being constantly full of shit all the time. If I didn't post then the resulting explosion wouldn't be very nice to clean up.


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By Eric Coffman
Jul 26, 2012
mountainlion

I agree APBT1976 I dont know how you can love the outdoors and be a republican either. However I am not a fan of either party. I am a fan of being an AMERICAN and want the government to serve it's master (the people) and not just the interests of the 1%.


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By Brad Caldwell
From Deep in the Jocassee Gorges
Jul 26, 2012

College Professor...I'm currently taking the summer off, so I have plenty of time for MP right now. My usual day consist of teaching for 4-5 hours with 2 hours in my office. I've been at it for 10+ years and teach only 2 different Anatomy and Physiology classes (basically I teach 2 consecutive courses for pre Med/nurses that cover the basics of the human body) so I've taught it so much that I don't have much prep work before I go into class, only grading and other admin/committee work while I'm in my office. When I'm done with that stuff, I cruise MP, DPM, write stuff for my blog/website (UpstateBouldering.blogspot.com) about local bouldering spots I help out with access, and watch videos to get beta for upcoming road trips and bouldering sessions. I love teaching and being able to use my free time for my favorite hobby is definitely a major plus. My boss/department chair knows I produce excellent quality students and I'm always fulfilling my responsibilities to the highest standards, so I've finally earned the right to not be micromanaged as much as other professors in my department. I didn't have that luxury earlier in my career, but have earned it over the years. So many folks surf the web instead of doing their job and IMO this is a major reason productivity in the US is down and America is slipping in the world market (doing something besides your job while on the clock)...if more folks would do their job first and then use their free time to cruise climbing sites (or whatever they look at all day long), we as a country would be stronger in our productivity. If you'd rather be on the web posting nonsense than doing your job, then quit and be a dirt bag...somebody else in this country would love to have your position and would produce better quality, making that job more effective for our society. Sorry to get on a social/political rant there but so many folks want to get paid to goof off and it hurts us all in the long run!


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By APBT1976
From Never never land...
Jul 26, 2012
Black Dike 12/25/11

Eric Coffman wrote:
I agree APBT1976 I dont know how you can love the outdoors and be a republican either. However I am not a fan of either party. I am a fan of being an AMERICAN and want the government to serve it's master (the people) and not just the interests of the 1%.


Not sure how i even feel about being a "American" tbh..

I am sure it is no different anywhere else and more just the human condition than anything but for the most part i am very unimpressed by how into "our self/own interests" us "Americans are for the most part.

I agree on the party thing as i can get aboard views on both sides. I just could never ever get aboard some of the views the republican party hold in the interest of say another issue the republican party may hold that i might agree with and be very important to me.

I cant say that for the democratic party. I don't agree with all the democratic views either but even those issues i cant get aboard with i can at least accept on account of the other things i do agree with.

Politics and $$$ just suck really. Really it all just ruined a good thing if you ask me. I would take hunting foraging and fighting with neighboring villages any day over this B.S. crap we are all attached to..


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By Chris Miller
Jul 26, 2012

I'm not really much of a Republican. More of an Independant. For example, I'm pro-choice and pro-guns. However, I think that third trimester abortions as well as selling machine guns at Walmart are equally stupid practices. Accordingly, I reserve the right to form my own opinions. Nevertheless, it seems like Republicans work and pay taxes while Democrats suck their thumbs and expect to be pampered by the government. Let the flaming begin.


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By Unassigned User
Jul 26, 2012

Republican at heart even though I hate both parties right now. I love the outdoors love climbing. And I hate to say it but at my work there is nothing else to do but surf the Internet. It is actually embarrassing to me that that is all I do.


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By Chris Miller
Jul 26, 2012

Brad Caldwell wrote:
College Professor...I'm currently taking the summer off, so I have plenty of time for MP right now. My usual day consist of teaching for 4-5 hours with 2 hours in my office. I've been at it for 10+ years and teach only 2 different Anatomy and Physiology classes (basically I teach 2 consecutive courses for pre Med/nurses that cover the basics of the human body) so I've taught it so much that I don't have much prep work before I go into class, only grading and other admin/committee work while I'm in my office. When I'm done with that stuff, I cruise MP, DPM, write stuff for my blog/website (UpstateBouldering.blogspot.com) about local bouldering spots I help out with access, and watch videos to get beta for upcoming road trips and bouldering sessions. I love teaching and being able to use my free time for my favorite hobby is definitely a major plus. My boss/department chair knows I produce excellent quality students and I'm always fulfilling my responsibilities to the highest standards, so I've finally earned the right to not be micromanaged as much as other professors in my department. I didn't have that luxury earlier in my career, but have earned it over the years. So many folks surf the web instead of doing their job and IMO this is a major reason productivity in the US is down and America is slipping in the world market (doing something besides your job while on the clock)...if more folks would do their job first and then use their free time to cruise climbing sites (or whatever they look at all day long), we as a country would be stronger in our productivity. If you'd rather be on the web posting nonsense than doing your job, then quit and be a dirt bag...somebody else in this country would love to have your position and would produce better quality, making that job more effective for our society. Sorry to get on a social/political rant there but so many folks want to get paid to goof off and it hurts us all in the long run!



A&P 1 and A&P 2 were pretty much the most useful and interesting classes I had to take.


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By Nick Stayner
From The Magic City
Jul 26, 2012
Nick Stayner near the crux. Ryan Minton photo.

Chris Miller wrote:
A&P 1 and A&P 2 were pretty much the most useful and interesting classes I had to take.


Agree 100%. In A&P 1 right now, one more semester before my nursing clinicals start.

Brad- I am constantly amazed at the sheer amount of knowledge my A & P instructor manages to effectively articulate to us every day. Professors like him (and you) form the basis of functional knowledge for so many health care professionals... good on you!


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By iceman777
From Colorado Springs
Jul 26, 2012

I get paid very very very well to blow shit up! Only work 28 days on then get two weeks off
make over six figures + a year......... laugh my ass off all the way to the bank ! Laugh my ass off sipping coffee watching everyone else rush around to work . don't give two shits about repubs or dems or whatever As long as there are people who need cars/computers and all the other crap of modern civilization Ill have a job.

I work mostly in the mining industry Contract driller /blaster/miner


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By Tom Powell
From Rawlins, Wyoming
Jul 26, 2012
leading shotgun

I'm a Planner and GIS specialist for Carbon County Wyoming. I'll soon be adding MPA student to that.


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By Mike Noth
From IA
Jul 26, 2012
Mike Noth

psychiatric SAR - sometimes surfing this site isn't a distraction from work though...


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By Travis Dustin
From Derry, NH
Jul 27, 2012
NH

Foreman at a stone shop. We cut stone into thin veneer and building veneer.
www.stoneyard.com/


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By ross.mon
From Montana
Jul 27, 2012
lunch ledge

I look at the stuff we climb on under a microscope all day (or all night, more often). Being an oil well geologist is a great job for a climber, what with the good pay and time off, providing you don't:

A) Have a family, spouse, dog, or any other being that is dear to you and you ever want to see up close. work+climbing+family=does not compute.

B) Have ethical qualms about taking a paycheck from an oil company. Which, if you drive your car to the crag and use a nylon rope, you probably shouldn't. I'd rather have it come from North Dakota than Iran. But, you'll have to come to terms with that on your own.

C) Have any trepidation about being surrounded by conservative, redneck assholes all the time. Or have any interest in seeing the finer sex (I'm pretty sure all the woman left North Dakota sometime around 2006).


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By Ryan Williams
Administrator
From London (sort of)
Jul 27, 2012
El Chorro

I have done a lot of different things in the past few years.

During University I managed an after school program and a summer camp. I took a year off and worked at a ski resort in CO, then after Katrina I went to NOLA and got involved in an aid organization down there. I worked for them for a while, then went back to Raleigh and finished school.

After that I managed a retail store for a few months, got tired of it, and decided to travel. I worked at a hostel in New Zealand, as well as a few vineyards. Did a lot of odd jobs too, and farm work.

Then I went to Thailand for some climbing and got offered to manage a climbing shop there. Did that off and on for three years. Only job where I could wear board shorts and drink beer at my "desk."

When I wasn't in Thailand I'd live in my truck and work at a bar near the NRG and then head out west for the end of the Fall season. Then back to THailand.

I got married last year, and now I am back managing a retail store again. Jack Wolfskin, outdoor stuff, great company to work for. I get over 40 paid holidays this year and lots of cheap/free kit.


I think that most people sit down and read MP when they need a break from work. Some people on here obviously do more MP than they do work. And we wonder why the economy isn't doing so great ;)

In all seriousness, I spend more time on here when I am NOT climbing that much. It's just a way for me to keep psyched and motivated - keeps climbing in the front of my mind, not the back. Keeps me training hard in the gym since I see all these pictures all the time and think that someday I'll get to climb at those places.

Also a way for me to remember all of the places that I have seen. I'm pretty lucky in that I have gotten to travel a lot and have a wife that has always supported me.


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By Ryan Williams
Administrator
From London (sort of)
Jul 27, 2012
El Chorro

Chris Miller wrote:
I'm not really much of a Republican. More of an Independant. For example, I'm pro-choice and pro-guns. However, I think that third trimester abortions as well as selling machine guns at Walmart are equally stupid practices. Accordingly, I reserve the right to form my own opinions. Nevertheless, it seems like Republicans work and pay taxes while Democrats suck their thumbs and expect to be pampered by the government. Let the flaming begin.


Hard to argue w/ any of that. We would probably have fun drinking together (and shooting the beer cans afterwards).


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By fat cow
From Salinas, CA
Jul 27, 2012
perfect seam

Just landed a position as a brewer for the only brewery in Monterey, CA. It's a little micro brewery so psyched! Honestly the only down side is that I won't be on this website anymore due to having to actually work. The up side is being on my feet and not having to sit at a desk anymore.

If anyone ever vacations to this area stop in and get some delicious beer, I'll buy.


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By Charles Vernon
From Florence, AZ
Jul 27, 2012

ross.mon wrote:
I'd rather have it come from North Dakota than Iran. But, you'll have to come to terms with that on your own. C) Have any trepidation about being surrounded by conservative, redneck assholes all the time. Or have any interest in seeing the finer sex (I'm pretty sure all the woman left North Dakota sometime around 2006).


Interesting...my beautiful wife is from North Dakota and left the state in 2006! Maybe I got the last one?

We do go back to visit from time to time and I sure haven't met too many of those "conservative, red-neck assholes."


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By Davi Rivas
From Ventura, CA
Jul 27, 2012
Davi Rivas on the U-Notch, Palisades, 06/06/2011

RN, paramedic before that and I swung a hammer/hanging drywall before that. As a nurse (cath lab) I am able to confortably support my family here in SoCal, send my kid to a nice school, purchase gear when I need it and take trips when I want.
Nursing as a career is often overlooked by guys because its thought of as a womens profession. Not true. Some claim that MEN were the FIRST nurses(the Parabalani, St Benedict, The Hospitallers). Whatever, its a great rackett none the less.
Nurses do alot of 'traveling', that is, taking a job on the otherside of the country (or world) through an agency. I know other nurses whove worked in Dubai, Alaska, Morocco, Hawaii, England, India, New Zealand and of course all over the US. Kind of an optimal set-up for climbers and surfers willing and able to travel.

And yeah, you'll have to go back to school but its worth it.


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By Jim Titt
From Germany
Jul 27, 2012

I´m the boss so do what I like, as we make climbing gear reading forums is work anyway (market research) just like going on climbing trips is (testing/customer contact and feedback). The tax advantages are considerable!


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By Hank the Tank
From Golden, CO
Jul 27, 2012
those sweet glue days.

Electrical Contractor, bust alot of ass during the week. 3 overseas trips in less than a year and just bought a sweet house in Golden. Rarely read or post here anymore.. not that there's anything wrong with those that do, there's some sweet talent on MP these days, just way busy.


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By Chris Miller
Jul 27, 2012

Sheldon Deeny wrote:
I work in the oilfield for a well service company that does hydraulic fracturing. I was hired on for manual labor and operating the frac equipment (I don't have a college degree). The work can be physically exhausting with long hours. There's also a lot of sitting around doing nothing and waiting. It's dangerous, dirty, and I wonder about what it's doing to my long term health. In the 5 months I've been doing this, I've gone climbing twice. I went from being a full-time climbing bum, coming really close to doing my first 5.12c sport redpoint back in February, to top-roping 5.9. I have little free time and no social life (I have nothing in common with anybody around me anyways). So, I like reading the forums to escape from my current reality and fantasize about climbing. I got into a bunch of debt when I was flailing through college classes with no idea what to do in life so I decided to quit school and work in the oilfield to get my finances out of the toilet. During the past 4 months, I've managed to pay off about $13,000 of my debt, so there is an upside. I keep my living expenses extremely low (I don't blow my cash on strippers, backpage.com, payments for a lifted truck, and alcohol, like a lot of guys do). I'm not going to do this oilfield shit forever though... I dream about climbing and think about what I'm going to do in the future to find a good job that also allows free time to climb. This guy: knows what I'm talking about and can maybe give me some insight. I'm thinking of eventually going back to school for petroleum engineering or geology, because it's an interesting, multi-faceted field with a practically guaranteed well-paying job (barring oil price collapse, which I guess could happen). Does anyone reading this have experience in the industry? What types of jobs are there that have free time and don't tie you down to an oilfield shit hole? Part of me wants to quit this job as soon as I have some money saved up and go back to being a happy, poor, travelling climbing bum. But I also don't want to find myself at the age of 40 with no career, no savings, and a resume full of holes and short-term jobs. Are there any engineer types or career types out there who manage to balance work with their love of climbing who can give me some words of wisdom or inspiration? I'm really needing it right now. (I've thought about posting something like this for awhile, especially after reading this post and this seemed like an appropriate place to pipe up.)


Stay the course Dude, there's a lot of liberty to be found in getting rid of your debt. Sorry you're having to sacrifice your sanity for it. Hopefully, that's only temporary. Much respect.

Chris


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