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By drmandler
Apr 5, 2012
Aghanistan, undisclosed location

I like to climb small to medium size peaks but I dont want to buy ropes and spikes and am not interested in climbing sheer rock faces. I am 6'5" and weigh 260lbs but am fit. If I fell with a rope I would probably bring everyone down with me. What kind of climbing do you call this ?


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By Keenan Waeschle
From Bozeman, MT
Apr 5, 2012
on top of the RNWF <br />June 2012

hiking.


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By Dobson
From Butte, MT
Apr 5, 2012

The Brits call it hill-walking.


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By fat cow
From Salinas, CA
Apr 5, 2012
perfect seam

scrambling if there aren't trails, otherwise you are probably just hiking. kind of depends on how steep it is and what kind of terrain. steep grass or dirt- hiking, steep jumbled rocks- probably scrambling, kind of the same thing though


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By Eric D
From Gnarnia
Apr 5, 2012
Born again on the last move of the Red Dihedral, high Sierras.

Walking


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By Raze (Taylor)
Apr 5, 2012

3's or 4's


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By eric berghorn
From Calistoga,CA
Apr 5, 2012
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Class 1-5 rating system developed by the Sierra Club in 1937:

Class 1: Easy Walking

Class 2: Denotes rougher terrain, where your hands may be needed for balance.

Class 3: Steeper terrain where hands and footholds are used. The exposure may lead some climbers to feel more comfortable with a rope.

Class 4: Routes that involve more difficult climbing, and exposure such that a fall could be fatal. Ropes, Belays and Anchors may be used.

Class 5: Require roped belays, placement of intermediate protection, and specialized climbing techniques.

Source: Sierra Classics (John Moynier, Claude Fiddler)


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By Sergio P
From Idaho Springs, CO
Apr 5, 2012
World Champion NY Giants logo

Don't let the idea of "bringing everyone down with you" as a reason to not rock climb. Even if you weigh 300lbs, if you and your partner are following the same safty guidlines as the rest of us then you will be just as safe as someone who weighs 150lbs. However, if you don't want to rock climb b/c climbing sheer rock faces dosen't sound safe then thats cool too.


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By DexterRutecki
From Cincinnati, Ohio
Apr 5, 2012

Yep that would be called hiking, more commonly known as walking.


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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Apr 5, 2012
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.

Class 1: Plodding

Class 2: Piddling

Class 3: Grumbling

Class 4: Kersnoodling

Class 5: Horsefeffering


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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Apr 5, 2012
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.

This mainly comes up when a hiker gets missidentified as a climber by the news media after a fall down a steep slope that some might further confuse with a "cliff" or "dropoff" or something like that. But what if it was just someone walking or goofing off by the cliff, I mean, steep slope? Would that annoy hikers?


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By Buff Johnson
Apr 5, 2012
smiley face

Fellwalking, from the Scots.

I know, nobody understands what they are saying anyway.


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By Matt N
From Santa Barbara, CA
Apr 5, 2012
OTL

RJ Secor quips:

Class 1: you fall, you're stupid.
Class 2: you fall, you break your arm.
Class 3: you fall, you break your leg.
Class 4: you fall, you are almost dead (i.e., you can't breath and move your arms, legs, and head).
Class 5: you fall, you are dead.


Quoting Tom Patey: "A solo climber: a man who falls alone. A roped team: climbers who fall together."


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By J Q
Apr 5, 2012
Me again!

Chuffing, but you really need to carry a heavy pack full of gear to be a truly great chuffer.


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By Martin le Roux
From Superior, CO
Apr 5, 2012
Stairway to Heaven

Lots of derogatory responses here. Okay, so not everyone cares for scrambling or third-classing, but there's no need to be condescending and call it "hiking" or "walking".

Here's a description of scrambling from Alan Kane's guidebook "Scrambles in the Canadian Rockies": "Much use of handholds [may be] required, sections may be steep, loose and exposed, or rock could be smooth or downsloping... fall distance may be significant enough to be fatal. Routefinding skills are generally necessary... less experienced parties might prefer the security of a climbing rope for short sections, and being off-route may well require techincal climbing".


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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Apr 5, 2012
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.

I actually refer to it as scrambling myself and will throw in various disclaimers like "might have some 4th or 5th class in there." Agreed, that sort of stuff rocks. Just good shoes, a tiny pack with a wind jacket, water, and food and you go.


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By Will S
From Joshua Tree
Apr 5, 2012

Third class peak bagging.


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By Dave-o
From Boulder,CO
Apr 5, 2012

Get spikes asap!!


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By KevinCO
From Loveland, CO
Apr 5, 2012

'Walk up mountaineering' Not to be taken lightly with objective hazards such as lightning, avalanches, rock fall, altitude. The skills learned are key to successful full on, alpine technical climbing.


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By thomas ellis
From abq
Apr 5, 2012
Mint jullop

"what kind of climbing do you call this?"

Boring. Like taking the dog for a hike cause the wife thinks it's "so pretty"
But I would call it "durping" if the purpose of said scramble slog was to find new rock to climb.


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By doligo
Apr 6, 2012
Jose Cuervo Fruitcups dirtbag style

Trolling.


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By Umph!
Apr 6, 2012

I thought maybe this was a clucking thread:


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By drmandler
Apr 10, 2012
Aghanistan, undisclosed location

For those of you were helpful...thanks. For those of you who were derogatory...I am guessing you must have a low self esteem which is masked by engaging in high risk activities...and that makes you feel better than others who dont ! I have climbed 10-12,000 ft mountains without using ropes and I get a tremendous workout plus get great views of the world from high up. I dont use ropes but use picks and a walking stick to get me up the steeper aspects. I snowshoe at points to get to where I need to go. I am not a wimp by any means. Normally I use summitpost which seems a friendlier place to hang out.
Good day !


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By redlude97
Apr 10, 2012

drmandler wrote:
For those of you were helpful...thanks. For those of you who were derogatory...I am guessing you must have a low self esteem which is masked by engaging in high risk activities...and that makes you feel better than others who dont ! I have hiked 10-12,000 ft mountains without using ropes and I get a tremendous workout plus get great views of the world from high up. I dont use ropes but use picks and a walking stick to get me up the steeper aspects. I snowshoe at points to get to where I need to go. I am not a wimp by any means. Normally I use summitpost which seems a friendlier place to hang out. Good day !

=)


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By Sir Wanksalot
From County Jail
Apr 10, 2012

drmandler wrote:
For those of you were helpful...thanks. For those of you who were derogatory...I am guessing you must have a low self esteem which is masked by engaging in high risk activities...and that makes you feel better than others who dont ! I have climbed 10-12,000 ft mountains without using ropes and I get a tremendous workout plus get great views of the world from high up. I dont use ropes but use picks and a walking stick to get me up the steeper aspects. I snowshoe at points to get to where I need to go. I am not a wimp by any means. Normally I use summitpost which seems a friendlier place to hang out. Good day !


I blame sport climbing! It has made us climbers resenful of actually having to work a little to get to a climb. With your go get it attitiude you have likely just hurt the sensative ego of our beefy sporto bretheren! Climb on good sir!

Oh yeah... they call gaining elevation with use of your body power climbing. If you fall and die, your soloing! If you don't die when you fall you were hiking. If you don't die and come home safe, you climbed a mountain.


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By Tim McCabe
Apr 10, 2012

David Sahalie wrote:
the title 'mountain project' is a bit misleading because the site is for rock climbers. rockclimbing.com was already taken. hiking up steep terrain is difficult; I avoid it when possible.


Seems to me that this site covers most all aspects of technical climbing. From rock to ice and yes mountaineering any one of the three may include some time spent hiking up steep terrain.

drmandler if you look at other threads on this site you will see that there is almost always a certain amount of light hearted ribbing going on. Also there is a certain amount of trolling, people post things just to stir the pot, going on usually it's just a way to kill time rarely is it meant to be taken personally. Your use of the term "spikes" likely set off some alarm bells. Possibly you were referring to pitons but climbers rarely use them any more.

What you described certainly sounds like scrambling and yes that is a form of climbing just not really the type of climbing that is mostly discussed here. Sounds like Summitpost is a site that is more in tune to the type of climbing your into.

Enjoy the hills.

Tim


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