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wear on webbing, should i bin it?

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that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 236

Don't think it will snap today tomorrow or a week from now, but considering it's a metal buckle doing this the wear will become more and more pronounced, at the moment the wear is about 2mm deep.

wear on my harness
From the way i see it i have 3 options
1. Retire from active use and only use it for training.
2. buy a replacement and keep it in reserve.
3. Keep using it paying close attention to said the webbing.
The webbing is part of the swami on my harness (camp quartz CR3) so it's the one of 2 non redundant spots in my kit, Thoughts?

Kevin Neville · · Oconomowoc, WI · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 15

(3) is fine for now, but I'm concerned about the design of a harness that does this. What make/model?

FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 276
kevin neville wrote: What make/model?
It's this make and model:

that guy named seb wrote:my harness (camp quartz CR3)
JCM · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 115

My usual rule of thumb for situations like this is as soon as I start to think about it, it is time to replace. You could probably get 6 more months out of it, but it is nice too not have to worry.

I say start looking now for a replacement harness you like, so that you have time to find something on sale (and not have to pay full retail because you need a new harness right away). Once you get the new harness, switch over to that. Hold onto the old harness as a reserve option, or for training.

that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 236

glad to know i'm not using a death trap i noticed the wear a few months ago and i have hardly used it since (injured and not a great time to go lead climbing) the wear is caused by a buckle on the harness and every time is sit in it i guess is wears that one spot.

The terrible buckle
I'm not sure how this got past Camp, wouldn't surprise me if it was intentional tbh.

Gunkiemike · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 3,492

I'd suggest something, but you don't sound like the type of person that would take a piece of fine sandpaper to your climbing equipment.

SRB25 · · Woodside, ca · Joined Nov 2014 · Points: 5

Have you considered calling the company for possible replacement?

Rob WardenSpaceLizard · · las Vegans, the cosmic void · Joined Dec 2011 · Points: 130

This harness is fine. There is no reason. To toss it in the rubbish.

that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 236
Gunkiemike wrote:I'd suggest something, but you don't sound like the type of person that would take a piece of fine sandpaper to your climbing equipment.
It would need a file unfortunately and i don't see how i could get a file fine enough to get in the gap.
that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 236
Christian George wrote:Actually, sandpaper will work better than you think. You just want to smooth the edge, not remove much metal. A file would make it worse. Btw there is wood sandpaper and metal sandpaper.
it's not so much as a edge and more just 90 degrees, i took a metal ruler to it and it's allot more gentle now i have taken off some of the metal.
Suburban Roadside · · Abovetraffic on Hudson · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 2,419

That fuzz is nothing, , climbing gear is bomb-proof.
Yer gonna Die
good that you smoothed the edge, (edit: do not singe with a lighter?)
Now to watch the fuzz ~ ? ~ Your Milage may vary
it looks minor to me
and you can retire it next year 'cause yeah you wore the shit out of that harness
and it will rip apart when you fall / hang in it.
NOT!
Please - the strength and redundancy is built or over built into
every strap.
The buckle edge, now 'softened', needs to be checked.
Otherwise spend your cash on going places

grog m · · Saltlakecity · Joined Aug 2012 · Points: 70

If I recall correctly A guy named seb, you climb 5.13 and boulder V5...based on your other recent thread...I would assume that you are capable of making a judgement call here.

This smells a lot like trolling. That is barely fuzzy....

that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 236
grog m wrote:If I recall correctly A guy named seb, you climb 5.13 and boulder V5...based on your other recent thread...I would assume that you are capable of making a judgement call here. This smells a lot like trolling. That is barely fuzzy....
I guess it's hard to tell from the photo it's more than fuzz it's more like someone has taken a serrated knife and cut about 2mm into the webbing.
that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 236

I have been looking at some harnesses doing some research, black diamond chaos is my current pick, i really liked arc'teryx harnesses though from the looks of it their new line up is fucked, what a shame. If anybody knows of any better harnesses do tell, no yates or metloius though(distribution in the uk is limited at best).

Anonymous · · Unknown Hometown · Joined unknown · Points: 0

This post is about the belay loop but it will probably make you feel better about that minor wear on your harness.

blackdiamondequipment.com/e…

From the Black Diamond Harness Instructions: A Black Diamond harness belay loop can withstand 15 kN (3372 lbf) of force.



Structural webbing heavily abraded across file surface—4805 lbf:
lozo bozo · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 30
that guy named seb wrote:If anybody knows of any better harnesses do tell, no yates or metloius though(distribution in the uk is limited at best).
http://mistymountain.com/recreational-gear/recreational-harnesses.html
that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 236
fruitloop wrote: mistymountain.com/recreatio…
0 distribution in the uk, I also don't see what's stand out about their harnesses i am aware they have a following in the us though i have no idea why, their harnesses look about 20 years out of date the only recent things i see in them would be the speed adjust buckles.
lozo bozo · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 30
that guy named seb wrote: 0 distribution in the uk,
Oops! my bad

Have you tried any arcteryx harnesses? I constantly hear great things about them
Rob WardenSpaceLizard · · las Vegans, the cosmic void · Joined Dec 2011 · Points: 130

i have the new dead bird FL365. I would recommend this harness. the warranty allows for wear like that to result in a new harness. a good friend had his belay loop chopped in half from rubbing on a long OW. a new harness appeared with limited hassle from Dead bird.

It carries a big rack (4x-C4 #3 or C4#4 with a five and a six) very well

its more comfortable than my multiple big wall harnesses i have had (Yates shield/BD Big gun) I got rid of both of them for being too big/ not that comfortable.

I am about a 30 US waist, i wear a small in dead bird.

that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 236

Decided to get the black diamond chaos. Arc'teryxs new harnesses i have mixed feeling about, the range has shrunk ridiculously now at only 2 mens harnesses, 1 unisex and 2 womens. I'm not sure why they limited it so much but i simply don't see as much appeal in their new range.

Anonymous · · Unknown Hometown · Joined unknown · Points: 0

The bd harnesses are the most durable I've worn. Both metolius and the arcteryx harnesses suck to take a whip in or hang from. Petzl is pretty comfy but I just love my bd harnesses

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