Sign Up  |   Log In:Login with Facebook
REI Community
Mickey Mouse Wall
Routes Sorted
L to R R to L Alpha
Asahi T,S 
Beagle's Ear T 
Boxcar Willie S 
Captain Beyond T 
Culp's Fault T 
Don¬ít Panic It's Organic T 
Eagle's Bier T 
Fake Right, Go Left T 
Flakes T 
Green Dihedral T 
Hamburger Helper T 
Krystal Klyr T,TR 
Lifestream T,S 
Mausoleum T 
Mighty Mouse S 
Oblique Streak T 
Offset, The T,TR 
Parallel Journey T 
Perilous Journey TR 
Perversion T 
Red Dihedral T,S 
Shiva's Dance T 
Sidewinder T 
Simian's Way T 
Skink's Lip T,TR 
Stigmata T,S 
Three Mousketeers, The S 
Unnamed Dihedral T 
Vergin' on Perversion T,S 
Vulcans Don't Lie T 
Zambezi T 
Zen Effects S 
Unsorted Routes:

Vulcans Don't Lie 

YDS: 5.10a French: 6a Ewbanks: 18 UIAA: VI+ ZA: 18 British: E1 5a

Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 35'
Original:  YDS: 5.10a French: 6a Ewbanks: 18 UIAA: VI+ ZA: 18 British: E1 5a [details]
FA: unknown
Season: affct'd by closures
Page Views: 1,166
Submitted By: Clint Locks on Aug 15, 2006

You & This Route  |  Other Opinions (4)
Your todo list:
Your stars:
Your rating: -none- [change]
Your ticklist: [add new tick]
Your opinion of this PAGE:    [0 people like this page.]
Tony Bubb on pitch 3 of Perversion, showing the &q...

  • Closed for raptor nesting from February 1 through July 31 - each year - extended in 2016 - now open MORE INFO >>>
  • Private Property issues MORE INFO >>>

  • Description 

    "Vulcans Don't Lie" is truly more of a variation of Mickey Mouse Wall's classic 5.9 "Perversion" than a route in itself but, since it is a named climb in Rossiter's guide, I thought I'd add it to the site. Though Rossiter gave it a 10b, I found it to be short enough and positive enough to place it at .10a. I hope that's not obnoxious. Most of the info one would need for "Vulcans" can be found on the "Perversion" or "Captain Beyond" pages. Have fun!


    "Vulcans" is the roof located directly above pitch 3 of "Perversion", and can be gracefully substituted for the final 5.6 section of that pitch. Rap from the saddle from a veritable rat's nest of webbing. 2 more raps will get you to your packs.


    The protection is reasonably good on this pitch, though there is a large very loose block in the middle of the roof in which pro (esp. a cam) would more than likely rip. Careful!

    Comments on Vulcans Don't Lie Add Comment
    Show which comments
    - none yet -

    The Definitive
    Climbing Resource

    Inspiration & Motivation
    to Fuel Your Run

    Next Generation Mountain
    Bike Trail Maps

    Backcountry, Sidecountry
    & Secret Stashes

    Better Data. Better Tools.
    Better Hikes!