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Velvet Hammer 

Hueco: V8 Font: 7B

   
Type:  Boulder
Consensus:  Hueco: V8+ Font: 7B+ [details]
FA: Ian Cotter-Brown
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Submitted By: Remo on Apr 28, 2011
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Ian on the cross through of Velvet Hammer.

Description 

Begin matched on the start hold for Alpine Club. Make a long cross-through move and head left along boulder, top out.


Location 

Alpine Club boulder.


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Sticking the crux on the possible FA.
Sticking the crux on the possible FA.
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By SteveSchultz
Apr 28, 2011

Ian's calling this one "Velvet Hammer" it seems.

By Remo
From: Madison, WI
Apr 28, 2011

Name changed, thanks Steve.

By sweatpants
From: Broomfield, CO
Apr 28, 2011

confused... pictures, vid?

By SteveSchultz
Apr 28, 2011

sweaty, it starts on the rail with a super high heel and crosses up and left. saw video last night and its actually pretty cool. i'll see if ian will post it.

By sweatpants
From: Broomfield, CO
Apr 28, 2011

tell this ian character that we post everything here. even fails so that others can laugh at you or steal your poor beta. He must learn the lessons of the 'Land of Gnar'

By nicros fivten
Apr 29, 2011

Is this even a new problem? Seams like alternative beta to Alpine club.

By SteveSchultz
Apr 29, 2011

Definitely a new problem. Only common hold of the two problems is the start hold.

By Chris treggE
Administrator
From: Madison, WI
Apr 29, 2011

I'll be the judge of that. Report back tonight. :)

By Chris treggE
Administrator
From: Madison, WI
May 1, 2011

Yeah new problem, no doubt about it. Amazing that it can go. That next hold is so far away...

By Tony Brengosz
May 1, 2011

That hold looks far standing on the ground, and even further when on the start hold.

By nicros fivten
Jun 21, 2011

I realized that technically I have done this. I started alpine club, did the move the old fashion way, came in right hand into the good crimp and traversed out left at the lip. I started and ended in the same place. SAME BOULDER.

By Paul Campbell
From: Sussex, WI
Jun 21, 2011

Huh? That's not a very good argument. So two problems start on the same starting hold. They go in totally opposite directions using different holds. Once you reach the lip you can traverse inbetween the two different topouts. So they are considered the same problem?

By nicros fivten
Jun 21, 2011

Please read..

www.b3bouldering.com/2010/07/14/defining-a-boulder-problem/

It is actually a good argument.

So if I did not do what he did is it another problem? Alpine Club with a left hand finish... I did not use 2 of the holds that he did..

I believe the argument is valid when we are talking about a larger space or distance between each contrivance but we are talking about maybe a "body width"?

By Paul Campbell
From: Sussex, WI
Jun 21, 2011

I guess it could go either way but what Jamie types under The Finish about the difference between "The Centaur" and "Marble Sit" actually supports a separate problem.

By Rock Warrior Films
Jun 23, 2011

Okay Nic. I have to defend this problem because it is actually really cool. You only used the starting hold. That is it. There are 7 other holds on the problem as well. It is a different line. The cross move is bad ass too! Super fun and much easier for me than Alpine Club. You are correct when saying it is the same boulder, I will give you that much.

By Rock Warrior Films
Jul 22, 2011

Footage of the FA in our new film Midwest Unknown

By Hemberger
From: Madison, Wisconsin
Sep 11, 2011
rating: V8+ 7B+

Yeah, definitely a new and totally different line than AC. Really, really fun movement, too.