Login with Facebook
 ADVANCED
The Three Gossips
Select Route:
Be There or Be Talked About T 
Lyon Trautner Route T 
Speak No Evil T 
West Face T 

Be There or Be Talked About 

YDS: 5.11 French: 6c+ Ewbanks: 23 UIAA: VIII- ZA: 23 British: E4 5c C1

   
Type:  Trad, Aid, 3 pitches
Consensus:  YDS: 5.11 French: 6c+ Ewbanks: 23 UIAA: VIII- ZA: 23 British: E4 5c C1 [details]
FA: Pete Gallagher and Bego Gerhart '88
Page Views: 1,316
Submitted By: Brad Brandewie on May 24, 2007

You & This Route  |  Other Opinions (4)
Your todo list:
Your stars:
Your rating: -none- [change]
Your ticklist: [add new tick]
Your opinion of this PAGE:    [0 people like this page.]
Lisa Foster on pitch two. The rock on this pitch ...

Read about Anchor Replacement and Restrictions in Arches National Park MORE INFO >>>

Description 

This route climbs the South Gossip via a crack system on the right side of the west face. Like many of the routes in Arches, the start is soft, sandy, and spooky. Unlike many of the routes in Arches, the rock on the rest of this climb is mostly excellent and almost feels like wingate in places.

Pitch 1 – Climb through the soft rock either in a right facing corner or to the right of the corner. You’re aiming for a wide crack which is followed to a comfortable belay ledge. Belay from a fixed anchor. A variation climbs the thin crack to the right at 5.11d to the same belay. 5.11 or 5.10, C1 (It may even be 5.9 but the start is hard to rate)

Pitch 2 – Step right around a pillar and follow a beautiful crack up an acute dihedral to the base of the summit block. Belay from a fixed anchor on a ledge. 5.11 or 5.9, C1

Pitch 3 - A couple interesting free moves access a bolt ladder which leads to the top. C1

Rappel the Route

Protection 

Two sets of Camalots including at least one #5 and #6
Runners plus a screamer or two
Aid gear for the third pitch


Photos of Be There or Be Talked About Slideshow Add Photo
Ian McAlexander giving me a belay on the first pitch.  <br />
Ian McAlexander giving me a belay on the first pit...
Ian at the base of the wide section on the first pitch.
Ian at the base of the wide section on the first p...
Lisa jugging above a beautifully eroded landscape.
Lisa jugging above a beautifully eroded landscape.

Comments on Be There or Be Talked About Add Comment
Show which comments
By Brad Brandewie
May 24, 2007

We found three fixed ropes on the Gossips when we climbed this route. Lame!

Two of these ropes were fixed all the way to two of the summits.
Even More Lame!

We believe they were left by slackliners.

We removed the rope that was fixed to the top of the South Gossip when we left. If you want your rope back, contact me.

More pictures and a TR at piquaclimber.com/past/southgos...
By Mr.K
Dec 27, 2013

I thought it might be fun to aid solo this route yesterday. I should have looked at the pictures a little better. The majority of the route is a v-slot...or so it seemed. However, it was pretty fun and fairly easy (all but trying to use aiders in the slot. I definitely think it would be more fun to free. It you want to aid the whole route, bring about 6 - 8 #2 camalots, about 5 #1's, 2 or 3 #4's, 2 #5's, a #6, and a I think I used a .75 or a .5 in there somewhere. Had I realized this, I wouldn't have had to slide my 2 #1's and 2 #2's all the way through the third pitch. It sure was exciting though. I would give the route a C1+. All placements are bomber, just a little awkward. It felt really good to see a bolt ladder on on a flat face for the last pitch. I can't wait to go back and free it.
By Hockman
Apr 24, 2014

ROUTE BETA****

Few things:

Gear- Bring a single rack up to .5 Camalot. triples of .75 to #2 Camalot. (Maybe a #3?) Bring a #4 through #6 Camalot FOR THE FIRST PITCH. (You won't need the big gear for the V-Slot Second pitch- just leave it on the plush ledge above the P1 OW).

Rappel- Bring a 60M tag line and leave it on the ledge atop the P1 OW. From there climb with a 70M line to summit and complete 2 raps from the summit back down to the ledge where you left your tag line. From this ledge it's a double-rope rap to the ground. (NOTE** for the rappel from the base of the summit block a 70M rope makes it back to the ledge atop pitch 1 with about 15ft or so to spare. NOT sure if a 60m line would work....).

Great climb. Some bolts/anchors on route are somewhat suspect. All anchors have tat. Prepare to replace if necessary. No chains.

Have fun!
By justino
Aug 16, 2014

Nate and I added some 5.5 tech cord and 2 biners to the rap station from the shoulder today. From there a full 60m rap takes you to the ground.