ick!

Hey, one person's "ick", is another's, "yum".

beats the shite out of a V-thread.

Yeah, v-thread up there woulda been 1mm thick at best. And, beats a walk off. Especially when you gots the power with ya. As per usual, in Maple, in the winter. Options for rappelling from the top of some of these ice climbs, sans bolts, would be grim at best and pretty frigh'ening (Utar speak).