Upper Dream Canyon 

I would affirm Dream Canyon's reputation as a nudist/homosexual spot, having three such experiences in my first five visits. Not unpleasant people, though not afraid. Once, mountain biking all the way east along Ridge Road in Nederland and passing the "summer road" and passing out of the residential area, I followed my nose along dirt roads until I was getting near Boulder Falls. Finding an interesting looking trail north, I jumped on it it and headed steeply down the hill. The trail petered out to deer track, and I was coming hard down the fall line with my bike on my shoulder. As I neared the creek, I began to hear chanting. At the very bottom of the canyon on the south side was a small meadow, on which were a few tents. A small bridge crossed the creek here to the north, where there is a large flat space at the bottom west end of Dream Canyon. A large blue tarp was suspended as an open walled tent, and underneath it were 2 dozen 30-40 something outdoorsy kinda Boulder types, wearing North Face and fleece jackets. Three women appeared to be inspired by spirits and were fainting backwards in ecstasy into cohorts arms. Again, chanting. 8-10 more dome tents, coupla SUVs, and as I cross the bridge, a couple of fellas quickly cruise over (spiritual, long hair, not menancing, but very concerned about my presence) and escort me towards the road, asking wassup? Motioned towards the other side of the canyon and the epic I would have had had I not found the bridge, and they just asked that I not return. One of the cars in the normal Dream Canyon parking lot had a bumpersticker; "Life's a joy, then you ascend...". Dream Canyon is its own vortex...

Anyone know the name of the rock, and the single route, about 100 yardsdownstream from The Terrace? There is a single bolted line (6 bolts) onan overhanging face, leading to a two bolt rap anchor. The rock isslightly upstream from the plank across the river at the Lost Angel.Grade for the route?

Thanks for any information.

Dream question: Above the anchors on Freedom [Lost Angel Wall] are two bolted routes which don't seem to be in Rossiter's guide or in this database . . . Anyone know what they are? Thanks.

What is the route across the creek from [Lost Angel]? slightly overhanging, good holds, the only route on the rock. It's between the [Plank Bridge] and [The Terrace] and a really great line. Name? Grade?

The rock across the creek from Lost Angel, downstream from the Terrace is called "Irish Holiday" and the bolted route is called "Spiders and Snakes" (5.12b). This route was cleaned, bolted and had its first free ascent by Bob Horan in the Autumn of 1998, assisted and belayed by myself and Mark Winstead. There is a short crack to the right of this route which finishes with the last three bolts on the rock, done free by me, then Mark, and named "Jack Hunter" (5.8). This is mentioned for posterity, not as a recommendation.

When you read the initial Dream Canyon description substitute "gay men" for "homosexual" and "exhibitionist" for "nudist." Having lived in the closest house to the canyon and Boulder Falls for over three years, I saw a lot of things, but I never saw a lesbian. Don't mistake my comments for scrutiny. People should be free to do what makes them happy in nature (be it hike, or climb, or have sex with strangers) as long as nature is preserved.

Also on the initial description: There are many ways to hike into LOWER Dream Canyon from the Boulder Falls area, but climbing above the falls (as many a flatlander has done) can earn you a trespassing ticket from rangers (trust me). From the parking area, cross the road down canyon from the "hole in the rock" and find the steep and narrow telephone service trail, try to avoid touron attention and be mindful of loose rock above the road. Only use this trail to access lower Dream Canyon during high water, otherwise hike down from the upper canyon. Be careful on all scree slopes and stay out of the mines, several have been filled in by the forest service during the last fifteen years but not all. They are unstable and perilous. Be discrete and respectful above the rim (i.e. top of Winter Warmth), it is private property.

Another way to get to Dream is by soloing the 4/5th class rock to the east of the falls. Just cross the creek and hike uphill a tad. I'm not sure if this is trespassing as well, but I can't imagine it is... Signs were on the West side of the creek, so... Lots of fun to do in wintry conditions/snow! Also, anyone know the name/grade of the 2 bolt route JUST right of the Falls? It runs up a blank wall with a roof, if I recall. Looks a little...um...run-out?

The parking lot off Lost Angel Road has been full on our recent visits. As we were leaving this afternoon (07/02/06) cars were idling waiting for spots; the pullouts off the road were also taken. Perhaps not surprising as this is a great area to climb.

Brian said,

"Also on the initial description: There are many ways to hike into LOWER Dream Canyon from the Boulder Falls area, but climbing above the falls (as many a flatlander has done) can earn you a trespassing ticket from rangers (trust me)."

I know many climbers have been ignoring the sign for years. Has anybody else gotten a ticket for hiking up from Boulder Falls?

My guidebook was grabbed at base of the Lost Angel wall. If you have it, please let me know. caabiz@gmail.com

Thanks to whoever took the time this week to cut down a few of the branches on the trail leading down to the Oceanic Wall and clean it up. That section was a real pain to get around.

I agree with other that this IS indeed a popular homosexual and nudist hangout from a few experiences (no I'm not gay, no I don't have a problem with old men tanning naked-just awkward, yes I do have problem seeing man-on-man sex acts in a beautiful sunny canyon on a weekend)

Also, coed nudists hang here. This I have no problem with.
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I have a question about Dream Canyon, so forgive me if my post is irrelevant. In 1977, I was taken up there and hiked along the creek. My guide then left me alone to camp out there by myself and said if I followed the trail I'd end up at the hwy (119). He didn't tell me there was a waterfall (not Boulder Falls but before). I ended up going down that fall and I want to know how tall it is? Anyone know what I'm talking about? It was a long time ago. Thanks!

8/25/2011
Attn: There is a stuck Orange Petzl rope on the lefthand-ish side of Dream Dome, the rope extends down to the water. This is my rope, I got it stuck in a thin crack pulling it down from rappel anchors at the top. I'll grab it Saturday, but if anyone sees it, please leave it alone, or just hide it somewhere at the bottom if you're going to climb the route. Thanks, Jeremy

Well.... Bob D's book is fairly vague on how to get into the canyon, and there is no signage. But the best way to figure a place out is to get lost, if you have the time.... We did.

Also saw a gay, assumption, naked man walking down the trail. If I were him, I'd stick to hiking in the nude in warmer weather....

Prod.

Found a pair of purple Evolv shoes size 6.5 up near Gully Washer ... anyone looking for these?