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Two Clucks From Saigon 

YDS: 5.7 French: 5a Ewbanks: 15 UIAA: V+ ZA: 13 British: MVS 4b PG13

   
Type:  Trad, TR, 1 pitch, 65'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.7 French: 5a Ewbanks: 15 UIAA: V+ ZA: 13 British: MVS 4b [details]
FA: ?pre 2002 or a clucker
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Submitted By: Leo Paik on Nov 30, 2006

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  • Description 

    I added this previously as a comment. If you are in the area and looking for more moderate lines, there is a line to the right which can go at 5.7 PG-13 or R (depending on the start) with mostly natural gear. The neighboring, lower-end, moderate routes, What if You're Not, Final Solution, Bar None, Der Fuhrer, & Ribspuren, may bring you to the area, this is just another filler route, but it may be fun. FWIW, I think it's 3rd best after What if You're Not & Final Solution. It's very likely been done previously.

    Clip the 1st bolt of What if You're Not? and either downclimb and move right or just go up and right. Above the bolt place a #4 Camalot, angle right, traverse a ledge right, put a red Alien in a small pocket and/or #2 Camalot in a hueco. Move up, place a #3 Camalot in a pocket, move up and right, place a bomber #2 Camalot in a crack, pull a bulge and move up to the top. Protect the finish with an orange Alien. We named it "Two Clucks from Saigon." It is left of Wing Ding (which is much harder). Kinda feels like Red River Gorge.

    Alternative finish: you can bugger off right to the anchors of Hot if You're Not instead of pulling the final bulge. We had named that "One Click to Saigon."

    Fun hueco pulling. Addendum: Friends don't fit these huecos as well. Camalots do better.


    Location 

    This starts on or just left of the start for What if You're Not? Then, after clipping the first bolt (if you start this way), you angle right. You can make it complete independent by staying right of the 1st bolt, it's then in the R range.


    Protection 

    Cams, QD, red & orange Aliens; #1, 2 #2, #3, #4 Camalots.



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    By George Bell
    From: Boulder, CO
    Nov 30, 2006

    "Two Clucks From Saigon", that's a pretty funny name. But isn't it "Two Clicks From Saigon"??

    By Leo Paik
    Administrator
    From: Westminster, Colorado
    Dec 1, 2006

    To explain: it's sort of a play on words. 1st time up, a vue, it was too committing to go straight up past the last bulge. That was when we went right, One Click To Saigon. Hence, 2nd time up, it was obvious, Two Clucks From Saigon. A bit humbling when real climbers are going out & putting up 12+ R routes, and here are these two cluckers on an itty bitty 7 PG-13 route and no mustard. Silly.

    By George Bell
    From: Boulder, CO
    Dec 1, 2006

    Thanks, I get it now. But isn't there a route somewhere around Boulder called "Two Clicks from Saigon"?

    By Leo Paik
    Administrator
    From: Westminster, Colorado
    Dec 2, 2006

    George, you'd know better than I. The closest I know of is Eight Clicks to Saigon on Combat Rock, Big Thompson Canyon. It's next to Pearl Harbor. The link-up of Saigon to Pearl Harbor is listed on the website. I've only done one pitch of it that I can remember. I think I got lost on P2 and wound up doing some variation to the left at 2 different points.

    By George Bell
    From: Boulder, CO
    Dec 4, 2006

    That's the one, I think I've clmbed "Eight Clicks ...". Thanks!