I know it's not important, but how do people feel about the name "movement"?

are there any cracks at movement? my only real complaint with BRC is that the routesetting pretty much assumes that rifle is the only climbing place within 500 miles. too much contortion and throwing for slopers. most of the climbing around boulder is crimpy and technical, which is hard to find at BRC. last spring, after my winter BRC season, i had lost about a number grade due to my crimping strength being totally gone.

you should give the Spot a try. plenty of crimps to be found there.

I gotta admit that after all the hype, I was disappointed with Movement. My big complaint with Movement is the lack of variety in terrain. Your choices are either vertical climbs, or wicked near horizontal roof climbing. That's great if your local crag of choice is the Pipe Dream or the Arsenal, but not very good training for most types of outdoor climbing. The BRC has much better choices in slightly to moderately overhung terrain.

I would have loved to have ditched the BRC, but the lack of variety and high price of Movement means that probably won't happen.

(re-post from here: http://www.mountainproject.com/v/climbing_gear_discussion/ms>>>>>

My winter indoor workouts are often by myself over my lunch break just running laps on an auto-belay. Does Movement have auto-belays? Are the BRC's still up and running?

Thanks,
Adam

Probably not right now... http://www.grough.co.uk/magazine/2009/10/20/climbers-warned->>>>>




Just came from BRC, still down, saw em' gettin stowed in a closet a couple days ago, find a partner or boulder.

i am a big fan of movement so far.

being a climber, skier, runner and one who likes general fitness, they have it all. the climbing is by far better than the brc; the setting is much better and the terrain is more varied with overhangs, vertical, and two arches. the bouldering is solid and i appreciate the v grading system which seems to be in line with flagstaff grading. the gym equipment is solid along with the treadmills, etc. although i have yet to use any of the classes, it's pretty cool that yoga and spinning classes are free with your membership. also, they have seasonal cross-training classes like ski-fit right now.

i'd also agree with the level of professionalism at the brc was lacking. i'd frequently go in there and feel as if i were trespassing. movement's staff has been nothing but professional and nice.

coming from a quality gym in earth treks in md, i can say this is definitely another solid gym beating out the brc and the spot easily. yes, the spot can't be beaten with amount of bouldering, but their elitist attitude, crappy setting, and lack of other offerings makes it useless for me to go to.

lastly- as of this month, movement is the only gym to be featured on the front of a climbing mag - see urban climber. that says something.

just checked out the rates for movement and noticed they charge a $75 fee to start up electronic funds transfer. yikes, that's pretty over-the-top.

BRC definitely needs to get their climbing treadmill in shape now that the autobelays are down. the treadmill is in really sorry shape, so its hard to get any sort of enduro workout. usually this wouldn't be a problem, but most of my old partners are climbing at movement these days.

the lack of crowds sure has been nice though...

I talked with Tony Yao the other day about the treadwall and he said he's going to work on it soon. They've had a big route setting push lately after a comp, but thats died down, so it should get worked on soon.

Send him an email with your thoughts or suggestions. He's nice guy.

for those interested.... not to highjack the thread topic but I guess the latest @ BRC is the autobelay's will be back on Monday. Problems with them appear to have been fixed. Gym-TRU! [top roper's unite! isn't that the latest rant in Rock & Ice?] :)
cheers,
Phil.

I just went in to Movement for a tour today.

The Autobelays are down for the possible recall. A decision should be made within a month I was told.

The place looked really nice. I think they had a large variety of walls, very clean, air seemed to be relatively chalk free. Some which seemed vertical actually are slightly overhung, so I don't see the previous comment about it being either dead-vertical or almost horizontal roof climbing really applies. There seemed to be hardly anything that was roof climbing except perhaps the arch thing. It reminds me of Momentum gym in Salt Lake City....with only 2 cracks though.

I don't get the $75 fee for elec. deposit either. A punch pass for $150 also seems a bit steep...probably plenty of bills to pay off with that new building though.

It would be nice to have a rotating wall also. Hard to believe they don't have one. Ditch the lame, high tech, computerized weight machines and get one....IMHO

I'm amazed that they did not seem to plan for much wall expansion. Or at least it doesn't seem like there are that many ways to expand the walls. If I spent that much money on a fancy new building I'd want a way to add new territory a few years down the line.

I never noticed anything elitist at the BRC. I go there, I climb, I have a good time...I go home. I hardly even notice staff except at the front desk.

ditto for the Spot.

I have climbed at the BRC for about 4 years and have never noticed an elitest attitude or bunk staff. Most of the staff there is very friendly and even cheers for you when you are climbing.

True it can be intimidating cliimbing when there are a bunch of eliete climbers sending the hardest routes over and over again but I have yet to encouter anyone who was rude or snaked my route that I was clearly waiting for.

I also find routes very varried. The climbing at the spot is good as well but I don't love bouldering and the spots scene feels a bit too much like a snowboard park for me.

I have yet to try movement. Do they have a free trial day like the BRC to check it out?

I've been going to Movement a lot this week and one thing I've noticed is that the design of the gym seems to absorb crowds better than the BRC. Maybe the spaciousness of the interior makes the place seem less crowded than other gyms.

well ya I don't like the straight up techno stuff but... pretty lights, moby, ulrich, etc. It gets me pumped to climb.

I don't think it would really matter whether it was 90 degrees or a glacier, like it is now(warming up though), I'm so busy that I only have enough time for the gym. Thus movement. bam! thread drift eliminated.