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By chuck claude
Oct 8, 2009

stredna wrote:
never met anyone who actually broke an alien because of a factory problem. maybe im bias. to me, cch aliens are the best small camming units available (period).


Funny, then one of my friends didn't happen to work really hard to make sure that a guy got to the hosptital alive after the braze seperated on an alien when the guy weighted it (didn't even fall).

I climbed on them for many years but gave up on them a long while ago. Personally I think the C3's are a far superior piece of gear for thin stuff


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By Jordan Ramey
From South Pasadena, CA
Oct 8, 2009
What was left of the rack when I topped out on the last pitch of Snake Dike on Half Dome.

Failien
Failien
Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Feb 21, 2008

Broken Micro Metolius TCU
Broken Micro Metolius TCU
Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Feb 21, 2008

Broken OP link cam (recalled)
Broken OP link cam (recalled)
Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Feb 21, 2008

camalot-another-one-blockshifted-on-it
camalot-another-one-blockshifted-on-it
Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Dec 11, 2008

broken_durango-2-pulled to failure
broken_durango-2-pulled to failure
Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Dec 11, 2008

Broken dyneema sling
Broken dyneema sling
Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Feb 21, 2008


Ahem...... YER GUNNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!


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By Buff Johnson
From Coniferous, CO
Oct 8, 2009
What happens when you:<br />1) have nothing to do<br />2) own a sharp knife<br />3) have a large lime<br />4) own a patient cat<br />5) drink too much tequila<br />6) and it's football season?<br /><br />(An e-mail I received; just know that no cat was harmed in the carving of this lime. Dogs Rule!!)

This your cat on aliens:

feline extreme sports -- it's all the rage
feline extreme sports -- it's all the rage
Submitted By: Buff Johnson on Jun 11, 2009


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By BirminghamBen
From Birmingham, AL
Oct 8, 2009
Post climb snack...<br /><br />If you were wondering, the guy is Strappo (could be my long lost brother according to one of my climbing partners), a famous British climber and madman. <br /><br />The photo was taken in the Yosemite Lodge parking lot in 1982. Russ Walling took the photo. Strappo provided the bread.....

Great, Jordan...now I'm going to have nightmares.


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By Rick Blair
From Denver, Co
Oct 8, 2009

I'm more concerned about what Mark is doing to his cat.


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By Will Anglin
From Gunnison, CO
Oct 8, 2009
Brass offsets = Gold

I wanna know the story behind the busted #2. That thing is a mess! Was it fallen on or dropped?


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By Phil Lauffen
From Boulder
Oct 8, 2009
Crux move as shown by the expression on my face.

looks fine to me.


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By pacoarg9
From west hartford, ct
Oct 8, 2009

Jordan Ramey wrote:
Ahem...... YER GUNNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!



hahahahaha.......your funny......the using an alien is a sin thing was hilarious by the way

i have taken a few calculated falls and weighted my aliens. and here i am so i think i have the ones that aren't the terrible ones...if that can be said....but either way i think i will keep them and use them when needed (very very carefully) because i like them a lot and do find them to be valuable. i like the offset ones...they are sweet

thanks for the info and jokes everyone...always a pleasure


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By susan peplow
From Phx J-Tree
Oct 8, 2009
Beer Anyone?

For your reading pleasure

~Susan

edit: on a personal note, I've personally seen the results from pull testing Aliens. Some of which the heads pop off at about 400 pounds. That said, I wouldn't climb on any that haven't been tested and stamped.


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By Marc H
From Lafayette, CO
Oct 8, 2009
From "Couch Freaks '09."

JPVallone wrote:
Can't live without them nothing comes close


I would argue that Metolius Master Cams are "close." Coupled with the fact that Metolius doesn't have quality control issues, I think they're a fine, comparable product.

--Marc


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By Couloirman
Oct 8, 2009
speedriding vail pass

Will Anglin wrote:
I wanna know the story behind the busted #2. That thing is a mess! Was it fallen on or dropped?



If I had to put money on it, Id say it was stuck somewhere way over-cammed and hammered to high hell getting it out.

EDIT: I change my mind, probably placed behind a really big loose block and the block shifted.


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By Jordan Ramey
From South Pasadena, CA
Oct 8, 2009
What was left of the rack when I topped out on the last pitch of Snake Dike on Half Dome.

Will Anglin wrote:
I wanna know the story behind the busted #2. That thing is a mess! Was it fallen on or dropped?


It was dropped from a height of 3' onto a sandy trail. Hairline fractures developed and it warped in the UV light. It is NOT retired and rides on my rack to this day, after a bit o' straightening with a hammer and blowtorch.


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By Jordan Ramey
From South Pasadena, CA
Oct 8, 2009
What was left of the rack when I topped out on the last pitch of Snake Dike on Half Dome.

#2 camalot for sale.  mint condition.  $64 OBO.
#2 camalot for sale. mint condition. $64 OBO.
Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Oct 8, 2009

Russ Walling pull test = FAIL
Russ Walling pull test = FAIL
Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Oct 8, 2009


REI: when in doubt, sell it out!
CLOSEOUT
CLOSEOUT
Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Oct 8, 2009


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By Jordan Ramey
From South Pasadena, CA
Oct 8, 2009
What was left of the rack when I topped out on the last pitch of Snake Dike on Half Dome.

CCH Brand T-Shirts... Now available in "Fatherless Child Size"

alien shirt 1
alien shirt 1
Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Oct 8, 2009

alien shirt 2
alien shirt 2
Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Oct 8, 2009

alien shirt 3
alien shirt 3
Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Oct 8, 2009

alien shirt 4
alien shirt 4
Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Oct 8, 2009

alien shirt 5
alien shirt 5
Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Oct 8, 2009


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By Mark Vogel
Oct 8, 2009

Master Cams look pretty good.
Too bad about about the QC issues at CCH.

Have fun out there.


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By Micah Isaac
From Boulder, CO
Oct 8, 2009
soloing Boulder Canyon Upper Falls

Never like aliens, but I would use them from time to time if a partner had them racked. A few months back I took a 50+ footer on a green alien and it held me. I was pretty happy to say the least:)


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By Will Anglin
From Gunnison, CO
Oct 8, 2009
Brass offsets = Gold

That second shirt made my day!


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By bigwallrog
From the farside
Oct 9, 2009

You and onlyYou should decide if this is a piece of gear to trust .
Just as it should be for any piece of PPE you own or ever consider owning.PERIOD!

Yes they work Yes they have issues but I can show you cams from everyone that have failed on me at one time or another some were marginal,some were pilot error and some were just plain crap this goes equaly for bd,met,dmm,aliens ect ect ect

I use mine all the time but that's me I like mine and when the day comes that I no longer trust them than it's into the trash they go!But now a days it's seems to be more fashionable to sell them on e ripoff bay.

Btw I want an Alien test pilot t shirt....

Now that would be way bitchen...


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By Jordan Ramey
From South Pasadena, CA
Oct 9, 2009
What was left of the rack when I topped out on the last pitch of Snake Dike on Half Dome.

bigwallrog wrote:
You and only You should decide if this is a piece of gear to trust.


Well said. My pics were originally to show that all gear can fail. For what it's worth, I climb with them, have whipped on them, swear by them, etc, etc....

Aliens are now UIAA certified as well.

http://www.aliencamsbycch.com/testing.html


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By chuck claude
Oct 9, 2009

Jordan Ramey wrote:
Well said. My pics were originally to show that all gear can fail. For what it's worth, I climb with them, have whipped on them, swear by them, etc, etc.... Aliens are now UIAA certified as well. http://www.aliencamsbycch.com/testing.html


Wennt to their website. Their failure testing is a joke!!! How many did they test (or atleast reported on). That should be like 1 wks of testing.


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By ohnh
Oct 9, 2009

Please lock this thread. Dave passed away this Wednesday:
http://www.laramieboomerang.com/articles/2009/10/09/obituari>>>>>


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By lee hansche
From goffstown, nh
Oct 16, 2009
loving the rock, on cannon cliff...

i just don't really like em so i never fussed about them...

however, i think people just get branded and then there is no turning back... if black diamond or metolius had a few QC issues i think subconsciously id do my best to look the other way cause i have been using their gear for years and its hard to try something new...


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By miwuksurfer
From Missoula, MT
Nov 5, 2009

"If Black Diamond had a few QC issues..."

http://mtntools.com/techtips/psa8bp.html
http://mtntools.com/techtips/psa4cfbp.html
http://mtntools.com/techtips/psa2bdledge.html
http://mtntools.com/techtips/psa_bd_superlock_biner.htm
http://mtntools.com/techtips/images/psa_bdrage.pdf
http://mtntools.com/techtips/psa11bd.html
http://mtntools.com/techtips/psa_bd_bionic_crampon.htm
http://mtntools.com/techtips/psa_bd_harness.htm

I guess everybody has QC issues sometimes.


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By miwuksurfer
From Missoula, MT
Nov 5, 2009

Also, let's not forget the infamous BOD harness in Cliffhanger...


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By kurthicks
Nov 5, 2009

Will Anglin wrote:
I wanna know the story behind the busted #2. That thing is a mess! Was it fallen on or dropped?


That cam belonged to a friend of mine. It got wrecked in a rockfall. There is no way that it belongs alongside the others in that series.


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