By chuck claude Oct 8, 2009
| stredna wrote: never met anyone who actually broke an alien because of a factory problem. maybe im bias. to me, cch aliens are the best small camming units available (period).
Funny, then one of my friends didn't happen to work really hard to make sure that a guy got to the hosptital alive after the braze seperated on an alien when the guy weighted it (didn't even fall).
I climbed on them for many years but gave up on them a long while ago. Personally I think the C3's are a far superior piece of gear for thin stuff |  FLAG |
By Jordan Ramey From South Pasadena, CA Oct 8, 2009
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| Broken Micro Metolius TCU Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Feb 21, 2008
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| Broken OP link cam (recalled) Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Feb 21, 2008
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| camalot-another-one-blockshifted-on-it Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Dec 11, 2008
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| broken_durango-2-pulled to failure Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Dec 11, 2008
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| Broken dyneema sling Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Feb 21, 2008
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Ahem...... YER GUNNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!! |  FLAG |
By Buff Johnson From Coniferous, CO Oct 8, 2009
| This your cat on aliens:
| feline extreme sports -- it's all the rage Submitted By: Buff Johnson on Jun 11, 2009
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By BirminghamBen From Birmingham, AL Oct 8, 2009
| Great, Jordan...now I'm going to have nightmares. |  FLAG |
By Rick Blair From Denver, Co Oct 8, 2009
| I'm more concerned about what Mark is doing to his cat. |  FLAG |
By Will Anglin From Gunnison, CO Oct 8, 2009
| I wanna know the story behind the busted #2. That thing is a mess! Was it fallen on or dropped? |  FLAG |
By pacoarg9 From west hartford, ct Oct 8, 2009
| Jordan Ramey wrote: Ahem...... YER GUNNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!
hahahahaha.......your funny......the using an alien is a sin thing was hilarious by the way
i have taken a few calculated falls and weighted my aliens. and here i am so i think i have the ones that aren't the terrible ones...if that can be said....but either way i think i will keep them and use them when needed (very very carefully) because i like them a lot and do find them to be valuable. i like the offset ones...they are sweet
thanks for the info and jokes everyone...always a pleasure |  FLAG |
By susan peplow From Phx J-Tree Oct 8, 2009
| For your reading pleasure
~Susan
edit: on a personal note, I've personally seen the results from pull testing Aliens. Some of which the heads pop off at about 400 pounds. That said, I wouldn't climb on any that haven't been tested and stamped. |  FLAG |
By Marc H From Lafayette, CO Oct 8, 2009
| JPVallone wrote: Can't live without them nothing comes close
I would argue that Metolius Master Cams are "close." Coupled with the fact that Metolius doesn't have quality control issues, I think they're a fine, comparable product.
--Marc |  FLAG |
By Couloirman Oct 8, 2009
| Will Anglin wrote: I wanna know the story behind the busted #2. That thing is a mess! Was it fallen on or dropped?
If I had to put money on it, Id say it was stuck somewhere way over-cammed and hammered to high hell getting it out.
EDIT: I change my mind, probably placed behind a really big loose block and the block shifted. |  FLAG |
By Jordan Ramey From South Pasadena, CA Oct 8, 2009
| Will Anglin wrote: I wanna know the story behind the busted #2. That thing is a mess! Was it fallen on or dropped?
It was dropped from a height of 3' onto a sandy trail. Hairline fractures developed and it warped in the UV light. It is NOT retired and rides on my rack to this day, after a bit o' straightening with a hammer and blowtorch. |  FLAG |
By Jordan Ramey From South Pasadena, CA Oct 8, 2009
| | #2 camalot for sale. mint condition. $64 OBO. Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Oct 8, 2009
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| Russ Walling pull test = FAIL Submitted By: Jordan Ramey on Oct 8, 2009
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REI: when in doubt, sell it out!
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By Jordan Ramey From South Pasadena, CA Oct 8, 2009
| CCH Brand T-Shirts... Now available in "Fatherless Child Size"
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By Mark Vogel Oct 8, 2009
| Master Cams look pretty good. Too bad about about the QC issues at CCH.
Have fun out there. |  FLAG |
By Micah Isaac From Boulder, CO Oct 8, 2009
| Never like aliens, but I would use them from time to time if a partner had them racked. A few months back I took a 50+ footer on a green alien and it held me. I was pretty happy to say the least:) |  FLAG |
By Will Anglin From Gunnison, CO Oct 8, 2009
| That second shirt made my day! |  FLAG |
By bigwallrog From the farside Oct 9, 2009
| You and onlyYou should decide if this is a piece of gear to trust . Just as it should be for any piece of PPE you own or ever consider owning.PERIOD!
Yes they work Yes they have issues but I can show you cams from everyone that have failed on me at one time or another some were marginal,some were pilot error and some were just plain crap this goes equaly for bd,met,dmm,aliens ect ect ect
I use mine all the time but that's me I like mine and when the day comes that I no longer trust them than it's into the trash they go!But now a days it's seems to be more fashionable to sell them on e ripoff bay.
Btw I want an Alien test pilot t shirt....
Now that would be way bitchen... |  FLAG |
By Jordan Ramey From South Pasadena, CA Oct 9, 2009
| bigwallrog wrote: You and only You should decide if this is a piece of gear to trust.
Well said. My pics were originally to show that all gear can fail. For what it's worth, I climb with them, have whipped on them, swear by them, etc, etc....
Aliens are now UIAA certified as well.
http://www.aliencamsbycch.com/testing.html |  FLAG |
By chuck claude Oct 9, 2009
| Jordan Ramey wrote: Well said. My pics were originally to show that all gear can fail. For what it's worth, I climb with them, have whipped on them, swear by them, etc, etc.... Aliens are now UIAA certified as well. http://www.aliencamsbycch.com/testing.htmlWennt to their website. Their failure testing is a joke!!! How many did they test (or atleast reported on). That should be like 1 wks of testing. |  FLAG |
By lee hansche From goffstown, nh Oct 16, 2009
| i just don't really like em so i never fussed about them...
however, i think people just get branded and then there is no turning back... if black diamond or metolius had a few QC issues i think subconsciously id do my best to look the other way cause i have been using their gear for years and its hard to try something new... |  FLAG |
By miwuksurfer From Missoula, MT Nov 5, 2009
| Also, let's not forget the infamous BOD harness in Cliffhanger... |  FLAG |
By kurthicks Nov 5, 2009
| Will Anglin wrote: I wanna know the story behind the busted #2. That thing is a mess! Was it fallen on or dropped?
That cam belonged to a friend of mine. It got wrecked in a rockfall. There is no way that it belongs alongside the others in that series. |  FLAG |
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