By Matt Swartz From Nederland, CO Sep 19, 2009
| Hey y'all, just thought I would share a story with you all as it was a great learning experience for me.
It all started yesterday morning at the intersection of 170 & 93 where I met my friend Dave to go do the Yellow Spur in Eldorado Canyon SP. We met up at about 9am and headed into the park. After getting our pass we parked at the lower parking area and sorted out our gear. We brought one pack (with 2 liters and first aid kit).
After reading that there would be some down-climbing involved (on the rap) if we only brought 1 60m rope, we decided to bring two (we don't have a 70m). This would be Dave's first multi-pitch route and I didn't want him to have to down-climb anything that could possibly be exposed or dangerous.
We crossed the bridge and proceeded passed the smaller walls on our way up to the Redgarden Wall to find our climb. The climb up to the start of the Yellow Spur is a hike for sure, took us about 40 minutes from the car to the base of the climb.
We started by scrambling up a short corner to the tree that marks the beginning of the climb. Upon looking at the two options to start (5.9 and 5.10) I opted for the 5.9 start, about 15 feet right of the 5.10 start. Upon reaching the roof on the first pitch, I had wished I did the 5.10 start as it was more direct and would have helped us avoid some rope drag. This cost us some serious time - Dave had some issues getting past the roof. After the first pitch confusion was done, the rest of the climb went smoothly, an awesome climb overall.
Upon reaching the summit, we took some pictures, finished the last of our water, and contemplated our descent. I had copied down the entire descent directions from this lovely website, but it neglected to give directions on getting off the summit. Although a scramble down was possible, it was extremely exposed. We wanted to rap down to the gully but didnt have any bolts and so we wrapped the rope around the summit block wedging it in a notch on the opposite side to secure it. I belayed Dave down to the gully, backing him up with our second rope and then rapped down behind him. Apparently the notch worked better then planned and we could not pull our rope - I had to solo up to the summit, retrieve the rope, and then down climb to the gully.
At this point it was getting late and daylight was fading. We began walking down the gully looking for the "notch" that was described but managed to pass it and continued until we couldn't go any further. We then had to turn around and go back uphill until we eventually found the notch. After finding the notch we found the first set of rap bolts pretty easily. This is the point when we were finally happy to have two ropes - we made the rap all the way to the ledge without having to do any down climbing (and it was a good thing because it was pretty dark by this point).
Now would have been the about the time that I would have put on my headlamp on, but unfortunately I didn't bring one. It hadn't even occurred to me that we would be out until it was dark. Dave didn't have a headlamp either. Luckily I had a lighter in my first-aid kit, barely good enough to give us light, but better then nothing.
We next had to scramble up a ramp and find a fin of rock to climb over to find our next set of bolts to rap from. We were stumbling around - not a good situation considering the exposure. We came to what we believed was the fin of rock described in our descent plans, but one problem, we could NOT find the rap bolts. As it kept getting darker and darker we were getting a little worried thinking about the possibility of spending the night on the wall.
We continued looking around for the bolts but didn't have any luck. We really didn't want to spend the night on the wall with people worrying about us, but we did not know where to rap from. We figured that we were on the correct ledge but just couldn't find the bolts, so we began looking for another option. We found a tree that looked like it might have been rapped off of before, although this was just speculation - there were no slings, cord, or rap rings around the tree. We tied the two ropes together, threw them over the edge and I got on the rope. We decided that I would rap, see if I was down, and if I didn't make it to the ground, I would ascend the ropes back to the ledge and we would spend the night.
I put an autoblock on the rope below my belay device before starting down. About 5 feet down the rope I guess I knocked a football sized rock off the ledge (I didn't feel my feet hit it, perhaps the rope dislodged it). I heard it hit the ground and saw a spark as it smashed into the floor. It didn't give me a great idea of how far we had to go - far was all I could tell. About 50ft down, the rope had managed to get all tangled up. Since I had an autoblock, I was able to go hands-free and untangle the rope. As I continued down the rope into the dark I kept telling myself that this was a bad decision and that I should have stayed on the ledge. The further I got the more I dreaded the idea of having to ascent 200 feet of rope with slings. I could barely make out the contour of the cliff face, but I was free-hanging quite a way from the wall. As I went further down I could almost make out the end of the ropes - to my AMAZEMENT the ends were 2 feet off the ground, I made it down! Holy crap!
I got off the ropes and yelled up to Dave to come down. He rapped down to me. We were thrilled that we were no longer way up on the wall, but we were definitely not on familiar ground yet. There appeared to be a trail on the ledge we were on, but this was not the ground yet. After some thinking, we decided to rap one more time off another tree. Made it to the ground in about 100 feet. After walking down hill for about 50 feet I saw the metal ladder on the trail that led to the base of our climb. I immediately went uphill, found the beginning of our climb, scrambled up to our packs, and brought them down to Dave who had just gotten down to the ground.
We hugged (literally) and discussed how lucky we were to have made it to the ground doing multiple blind rappels in the dark. We shared some food and began the descent to the parking area. This took us about an hour and a half in the dark, being very careful, knowing that we could still get injured on the hike down.
We got back to our car at 10:15pm. We guessed that we started climbing at about 11:30am meaning our entire climb plus the ordeal of getting down took 11 hours and 15 minutes. Upon reaching the car I called my girlfriend who was less then thrilled and had called the police to have them look for our car to see if we were still at the park to help figure out if we might be injured.
Now I'm sure there are lots of people that will read this little story and make up their minds about how stupid and inexperienced we must have been to have this happen. I have been climbing for 6 years and this is the 3rd 'Epic' I've experienced. Looking back at the whole event I have realized quite a few things.
1st: When climbing at a new area, have as much information as you possibly can about the climb, descent, hazards, options if you get injured/lost, etc. I had done a pretty good job of this, I had the entire route description and descent description with us.
2nd: I should have brought a headlamp. Both times previously when I got caught out after dark, I had brought a headlamp and it made the descents a whole lot easier. No matter what you expect, bring a headlamp on multipitch climbs.
3rd: We should have brought more water. I didn't mention it, but we were very thirsty after the first rappel from the summit. We were more then thirsty by the time we got to the ground. Being dehydrated and thirsty could lead to poor decision making.
and 4th: We probably shouldn't have rapped blindly. You might be saying, "but you made it...". True, but if I hadn't reached the ground, we would have been SOL. I was prepared to ascend the ropes, I've done it before and am confident that I could do it again. However it would have been exhausting and dangerous in the dark. We could have easily spent the night out, and then found the bolts in the morning and made a safe and confident rappel. True that our loved ones would have been worried, they were worried at 10 o'clock that night, but waiting would have been safer.
My ultimate reason for posting this is to remind everyone that even with as much experience as I have (6 years climbing rock and ice) the possibility of an EPIC always exists. Proper training can help, and sometimes you might get lucky (as we did in this case), but being prepared is the best thing you can do to have the best outcome in a situation like ours. Please feel free to share a similar story, or comment. It is only in discussing and thinking about our mistakes that we can lean from them and try and avoid them in the future. |  FLAG |
By slim Sep 20, 2009
| well, you didn't die or get hurt, and you ended up at the car with most of your gear. sounds like a successful day to me. |  FLAG |
By Evan1984 Sep 20, 2009
| Redgarden descents can be a beyotch. Combine that with the fact that many parties and many pitches can easily lead to being beinighted. The sum is that the descents often pose more problems that the climbing.
Last year, we topped out at dusk and there were two parties waiting at the top "hoping" we would have headlamps and know the way down(we did and my partner knew the descent).
Good reminders for everyone. glad to hear it worked out. I actually just keep a headlamp on my helmet whenever I'm multi-pitching.
Evan |  FLAG |
By Kai Huang From Thornton, CO Sep 20, 2009
| one thing i learned recently about multipitch trad adventures, it's not over until you are back to your car. sometimes, a lot of times, descending is the hardest pitch of the whole climb. glad you made it back okay. |  FLAG |
By Jeff Gustafson Sep 20, 2009
| Don't kill yourself trying to get in touch with people who may be worried... My wife knows I will stay put & bivy if it's not safe to proceed, and yes, she will still call search and rescue. So far I haven't spent any unplanned nights out, but I've come pretty close.
I think I will start carrying a headlamp everywhere. |  FLAG |
By Mike Pharris From Longmont, CO Sep 20, 2009
| Glad it worked out for you. Last week we climbed Swansons Arete and had a great time. But - much like you it took a long time for us to figure out the descent and find the rap stations. Much longer than i thought it would and I too had what I thought were very good directions for locating the raps. I didn't wind up in the dark, but only because we got an early start. We took the Chockstone Chimney descent (sounds like you did as well) and finding that second set of bolts over the edge of the ridgeline was tricky - it'd be almost impossible in the dark (if you didn't know where they were). |  FLAG |
By joe q fed up Sep 20, 2009
| 1) headlamp 2) layers (i.e. bivy) 3) while I hate them: cell phone would have lessened the need for you to race home and explain that you are ok 4) did I mention headlamp: to me, more important than food, water and layers: light=movement and movement = safety.
Please dont die out there....it makes us all look bad :)
Its easier to stay out of trouble than get out of trouble. |  FLAG |
By Dave Pilot From Boulder, CO Sep 20, 2009
| First off, thanks for sharing this; that takes guts.
It's possible that your route choice of the Yellow Spur for Dave's first multi-pitch trad route was not the best decision. The Yellow Spur is a difficult route and is really not a good place to learn multi-pitch tradecraft. Furthermore, it's one of the all-time classic routes in Eldo and justifiably sees a lot of traffic on the weekend so it can take a long time to top out. Combine that with a setting sun and a lack of neon signs at the rappel anchors and you've got an epic.
Second, I cringed when I read that you slung your rope around a block at the top, rapped, got the rope stuck, soloed, and then solo downclimbed all in dwindling light. Good job keeping it together. A better alternative would have been to start using your gear and setting up proper rappel anchors. Of course this becomes a lot harder when you can't see your placements but I have to assume at this point if you could see well enough to solo, you could see well enough to construct an anchor.
Hope this doesn't sound to preachy. Again, good job bringing you and your partner home.
Two final thoughts. 1. The best way to survive an epic is to avoid it. 2. Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. |  FLAG |
By Matt Swartz From Nederland, CO Sep 20, 2009
| joe - I agree, from now on a headlamp is going to be standard in my gear for multipitch climbs, such an easy thing to bring and extremely useful. Jeff - I also agree, loved ones can wait, as long as you are safe, you will make it home eventually. Kai - definitely, the climb is only half the journey, making it down is the other half. And Dave - I agree, Yellow Spur was quite an undertaking for Dave as his first multipitch. He was totally confident in terms of the climbing, but obviously not as well versed as I in terms of self rescue, route finding, and descent. It would have been a better idea to start him off on something smaller and less complicated (although he did tell me he had a blast). And as far as the descent from the summit went, there was still plenty of light when I went back up for my rope. The climbing was very easy and I was confident that I could solo it or I wouldn't have. Still not fun though. Thanks for the feedback and comments y'all, I appreciate it! Climb safe. |  FLAG |
By Malcolm Daly From Boulder, CO Sep 20, 2009
| Guys,
Glad you had an epic and survived it well. It sounds like everything, other the the stuck rope at the first rappel, actually went rather smoothly. Back before there were internet forums and annually updated guidebooks, descent epics were fairly common. The old guidebooks would have descent beta that said something like, "Descend to the East" or "Descend via rappels". That was it. We get pretty comfortable these days because of all the beta out there but good route-finding skills and preparation are as essential as ever.
For gear advice, get a chalkbag that has a little zippered pocket in it and keep a headlamp in it all the time. If it lives there--always-- you'll have it when you need it. If you think you'll remember to put it in before each climb, you won't, and that's when you'll need it (Murphy's Law # 1024a). Get a Petzl eLight. They have a 10-year Lithium battery, weigh next to nothing and can be worn in a number of ways.
Climb Safe, Mal |  FLAG |
By Stich From Colorado Springs, Colorado Sep 20, 2009
| It sounds to me like you rappelled down to the Vertigo Ledge at the end. You can of course walk North (uphill as the trails below you go) and it intersects the regular trail. |  FLAG |
By Shawn Mitchell From Broomfield Sep 20, 2009
| Mike Pharris wrote: We took the Chockstone Chimney descent (sounds like you did as well) and finding that second set of bolts over the edge of the ridgeline was tricky - it'd be almost impossible in the dark (if you didn't know where they were).
Sets of bolts? Where? Embarrassing gumby Qs:
I don't summit Redgarden that frequently, and after 20 years in Broomfield, still don't have the descents dialed. East Slabs is always a wandering thrutch; Trail off of Rewritten is a nice change of pace; and last week after a jog up Swanson's Arete, I tried the raps for the first time, but am still confused about what we actually did.
Going up Swanson's, we saw parties descending on bolt stations across the gully on what looked like the Icarus face. But from the top of Lumpe Tower or in the notch between Lumpe and T-1, we couldn't find a good station. So finally, we rapped back into the notch off a bush on the Lumpe summit, found a slung chockstone just over the chimney "lip" and, joining ropes (two 60's)with another party that finished Yellow Spur, did two long raps to the ground. Not much drama, but...
I never found bolted rap stations, though I tried to look for them. The first stop was at a big slung tree, and the next rap did not go down the gully, but went over a bulge into a long spectacular freehanging rappel past the Yellow Spur ledge to the ground, a little ways downhill from the start of Reritten/Great Zot, et al.
My confusion(s): why couldn't we find any bolted stations? And failing that, I thought the raps went down the gully/chimney to the ground. How did we end up hanging on blank face? What would have happened if we had just felt our way down with one 60 meter, as we intended before meeting the other party? |  FLAG |
By coppolillo Sep 20, 2009
| yo matt! good on ya or doing a cool route, keeping sane, and shepherding your partner...eldo epics are standard...no shame.
malcom's advice is good: one of those tiny headlamps weighs nothing and fits anywhere--i just include mine in my (also tiny) medkit--never without it if you're more than a couple pitches up.
also---if it's at all possible to scope your descent in daylight, it is well worth the time to do--especially in places in red rocks or eldo, where complicated terrain is the norm. when you arrived at the base of the route, you could've spent five minutes walking away from the wall (west) to get a great vantage point on your descent...that might've helped get you around the red ledge and down to the bolts at the top of the chimney beside rewritten/grandmother's/great zot. just a thought. anytime you can see your descent (great for skiing, too) take the time to scope it, pick out landmarks you can find in a whiteout, dark, etc....
right on, man, keep climbing, hope to meet you out there, rob c |  FLAG |
By Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi? From Vegas Sep 20, 2009
| coppolillo wrote: -if it's at all possible to scope your descent in daylight, it is well worth the time to do--especially in places in red rocks or eldo, where complicated terrain is the norm.
Good advice. Red Rock(s) is where I quickly learned to always have a headlamp or two handy.
Thanks for sharing your adventure, Matt. |  FLAG |
By Mike McHugh From Denver, CO Sep 20, 2009
| Matt:
You and your partner are in excellent company. I believe that the young Briggs and Ament were benighted on the selfsame route. May your climbing careers be as long and successful as theirs.
I just did all of T1.9 today without water. I really, really should know better, but I wanted to push my limits a bit. Go figure, my partner and I were miserable by the time we got back to the car. Lesson re-re-re-re-learned. |  FLAG |
By Matt Swartz From Nederland, CO Sep 20, 2009
| Malcolm and Copp - advice noted, it's funny because I have a petzl elight and used it on both of my other after-dark descents, still not sure why I didnt pack it. Everyone else, thanks for the advice, this is great info and a good dialog which hopefully other people will learn from as well. |  FLAG |
By Phil Lauffen From Boulder Sep 20, 2009
| You're definitely not alone. First time I did that route I took a twenty five footer onto the pin below the crux ladder when I ethically ignored the pin ladder to the right and decided to try my luck on the pro-less face to the left. In my defense I did see a bolt wayyyy up there.
After that, with darkness descending, we decided to bail off with double ropes(three in the party). We bailed off from the belay below the 5.8 traversing roof. Took forever on the first rappel because my partner decided that staying on the ledge wasn't a good idea and kept going down to the pins in the 5.8 dihedral and hang on those. The way the rope was though it felt like it was still weighted, and we were out of communication. After 30 minutes I just went, hauling up a lot of weight every foot to go down. Got reorged on the ledge, took out my headlamp-thank god- and realized rapping off the big horn near the 5.6 dihedral was the best option. I went first, left the headlamp with them so they could sort out the rap(in retrospect we shoulda stacked) and landed in the tree above the first pitch. REALLY cool free hanging rap in the dark though. We consolidated there and got to the ground. lucky as even two ropes wouldn't have reached the ground(about 20' short).
Had a great pizza at old chicago's at ten that night though. |  FLAG |
By Greg Hand From Golden, CO Sep 20, 2009
| | Closeup of the new rappel anchor at the top of the Upper Ramp.
The anchor is a Fixe Traditional Rap anchor (Stainless Steel, Tan #037-T) and two Rawl-Powers 5-piece stainless-steel bolts, 3/8" x 3.5". Submitted By: Ron Olsen on Aug 21, 2006
| Ron Olsen & I installed this anchor (8/21/2006) near the top of Vertigo to replace the tree that was failing. It was eventually trundled after a big wind storm. One 60m rope takes you down to another anchor, and another rappel puts you on the ground. This rappel is difficult to find for the first time user. In retrospect I have wondered if they should have been painted in neon rather than camo to facilitate finding in poor light. Perhaps some type of signage should be installed on the ledge system above to identify the rappel location. There are hiking trail signs below to direct climbers on approaches. Maybe there should also be signs to identify descents? |  FLAG |
By Rich Farnham From Nederland, CO Sep 20, 2009
| Shawn Mitchell wrote: Sets of bolts? Where? Embarrassing gumby Qs: I don't summit Redgarden that frequently, and after 20 years in Broomfield, still don't have the descents dialed...we saw parties descending on bolt stations across the gully on what looked like the Icarus face...
Shawn Mitchell wrote: My confusion(s): why couldn't we find any bolted stations? And failing that, I thought the raps went down the gully/chimney to the ground. How did we end up hanging on blank face? What would have happened if we had just felt our way down with one 60 meter, as we intended before meeting the other party?
Can't help you on the bolted stations down the Icarus face. I've never seen any (and did Icarus recently). Sounds like you rapped the Dirty Deed Gully to Red Ledge. Red Ledge is what you traversed on to get to the start of Swanson's from West Chimney. It is possible to do that descent with one 60m, but you don't want to rap off the Red Ledge where you did. You need to go back across Red Ledge to the West Chimney and do the two bolted raps there.
My first time up Yellow Spur ('98?) we didn't know this tidbit. We went the way you did, but only had one 60m. I recall rigging a rap station with a cordalette stretched out between two bolts on the sport climb you rapped over.
The bolted stations the OP was talking about were the Chockstone Chimney rappel to the top of the Upper Ramp, and then the Vertigo raps (these are the ones on "the other side of the ridge", the ridge being the top of the upper ramp). There are good descriptions somewhere on this site for these rappels. It is a good way down from the Yellow Spur/Swanson's area. You may wander around a little the first time you do it, trying to find the top of the Chockstone Chimney, but once you've done it once it's easy. A single 60m will (just) get you down the Chimney, and two single rope rappels will get you down the Vertigo rappels.
Maybe we should go do something on Redgarden sometime soon and I can show you the rappels. Hmmm...Grand Giraffe to Italian Arete? |  FLAG |
By Mark Cushman From Erie, CO Sep 20, 2009
| Greg Hand wrote: In retrospect I have wondered if they should have been painted in neon rather than camo to facilitate finding in poor light. Perhaps some type of signage should be installed on the ledge system above to identify the rappel location. There are hiking trail signs below to direct climbers on approaches. Maybe there should also be signs to identify descents? Greg and Ron, thank you for the rappel anchors. This is by far the best way to get down (IMO) from most Tower One climbs.
I think they are easy to find during the day. Following the excellent description of the descent on the Yellow Spur page I was able to find the descent without too much wandering. I don't think that signs need to be installed to indicate where the descent is. If you do the descent for the first time in daylight with plenty of time to spare you shouldn't have an issue.
Here's a picture showing the descent:
| Each rappel station marked here is bolted Submitted By: Mark Cushman on Mar 28, 2008
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 FLAG |
By clackmon Sep 20, 2009
| Greg Hand wrote: Maybe there should also be signs to identify descents?
if you need signs to find a descent you probably should quit climbing |  FLAG |
By Allen Hill From FIve Points, Colorado and Pine Sep 20, 2009
| I agree with clakmon. |  FLAG |
By Bob Packwood From Longtucky, CO Sep 21, 2009
| Sign Sign everywhere a sign Blocking out the scenery breaking my mind Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign? |  FLAG |
By Greg Hand From Golden, CO Sep 21, 2009
| There are rather unobtrusive ways to make signs. How about cairns? |  FLAG |
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