Home - Destinations - iPhone/Android - Gyms - Partners - Forum - Photos - Deals - What's New
 ADVANCED
Choss Garden
Tenaya Masai Climbing Shoe - Men's

$139.95 20% off

$111.96

at Backcountry

3    more...
Hueco 34 Backpack

$129.95 25% off

$97.46

at CampSaver

   more...
Patagonia Men's Micro Puff Jacket

$149.00 50% off

$74.50

at Patagonia

58    more...
38 in Glue Capsules 10 Pk.

$45.59 25% off

$34.19

at CampSaver

27    more...
Five Ten Galileo Climbing Shoe

$149.95 20% off

$119.96

at Backcountry

   more...
Banshee Shoe

$74.95 33% off

$50.00

at WildernessX

866    more...
Black Diamond Single Portaledge

$649.95 25% off

$487.46

at Backcountry

   more...
Patagonia Men's Northwall Jacket

$449.00 50% off

$224.50

at Patagonia

25    more...
Blackburn Air Tower HP Bicycle Pump

$79.99 25% off

$59.99

at AlsSports

1    more...
 more Dirtbag Deals
Routes Sorted
L to R R to L Alpha
Benefactor, The 
Daisy 
Depth of Field 
Gardener, The 
Mellow Gold 
Nettle 
Pitbulls on Crack 
Touchy Subject 
Unknown 
Up in Arms 

Touchy Subject 

5.11c

   
463 page views
Good page?   

Type: Sport, 55 feet
Consensus: 5.11c [details]
FA: Bret and Stuart Ruckman, 1990
Submitted By: grk10vq on Aug 27, 2010

You & This Route  |  Other Opinions (9)
Your todo list:
Your stars:
Your rating: -none- [change]
Your ticklist: [add new tick]

Add Photo  Add Comment    Printer View

Description 

In a place called the Choss Garden, almost any route could be named Touchy Subject, this route however, may be the one of the touchiest. A climb that only gets better with time, expect no relief on this sustained and continuously line.

Under a blanket of choss hides some very solid rock, finding whats solid is the initial crux. Sucker holds and very small crimps fill this thinning route. Start off with some small delicate moves and bust up a crack feature to a few big edges, grab a quick rest and keep going. From here a few more difficult moves lead to the real crux. Finish strong on some slightly easier terrain and gain a ledge at a double bolt area. End up and slightly left of a flake at a chain anchor.


Location 

Touchy Subject is the third route in from the right on the south-end of the Choss Garden. Its the route that starts off just left of a small pine and is between Nettle and Daisy.


Protection 

Eight or nine quickdraws.



Comments on Touchy Subject Add Comment
Show which comments
By John Steiger
Sep 4, 2011
rating: 5.11c

This has cleaned up very well; no “blanket of choss” here. The last clip (above the double bolts) is a hidden Lost Arrow driven straight down; looks solid, but I don’t think you want to whip on it.

By Spencer Weiler
From: SLC, UT
Apr 19, 2012

Older bolts make this one a bit more nerve racking, could use some updates. The hangers are those thin sheet metal looking items. There is another weird anchor on this one, two bolts of different ages offset and not equalized. Or continue up to find the hidden pin and on up to the top anchor. recommend stopping before pin.

By KipHenrie
From: centerville, utah
Aug 11, 2012

This does need new bolts to replace the old ones. Also the top right bolt is placed very near or on hollow rock. Soft 11c.

By tenesmus
Oct 2, 2012

If you watch your partner lead it first you'll see where the good holds are and make this a super high flow jug-to-jug-fest. Its cool when you can turn your hips and skip the hard holds! Also, its not necessary but nice to have a cam or two for the belay.

By Rick Vance
Nov 5, 2012

Bolts and hangers have been replaced as of 11/4/12.