Torreoncito 

Good eye on finding this tower, Manny! Am guessing that the thin tips crack will go free at 12 or 12+ with solid gear to protect, as our aiding through it proved. Will make for a nice free route for sure.

Still thinking about a piton mid way up the crack. It would provide solid pro through the struggle and keep the pro in line above.

A pin, really? No pins. Pins suck after a while. If you want permanent gear drill a bolt. Which reminds me I need to start a thread about using pins for anything other than aid to drill a bomber bolt.

Looks like a cool route Manny. Go with small cams and double them up at each placement.

Yeah, I have to agree, no pins. After aiding that crack the way I did I feel good about the pro in it and a stronger climber than I will likely not flinch at the 12+ free moves needed to get it clean on gear. Or, if you want someone like me to be more likely to at least try to do it free, then I'd go with the bolt off to the side -- here's a deal for you, I'll carry my light Bosch down next time and will be happy to do it while hanging on a couple of those small nuts!

Eric you have a point. This is soft rock and the pin wouldn't be very reliable after a season or two.

Still, I would rather have it bolt and pin free. It would be for me since I can't conceive of hanging and placing gear at the crux. I'll leave it as is and wait for a 12+ thin crack afficionado!