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Too Secret to Find 

YDS: 5.10b French: 6a+ Ewbanks: 19 UIAA: VII- ZA: 19 British: E2 5b

Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 80'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.10b French: 6a+ Ewbanks: 19 UIAA: VII- ZA: 19 British: E2 5b [details]
FA: Pete Charkin, Alan Roberts & Bruce Howatt, 1985
Season: Fall, Spring
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Submitted By: Graham Roff on Apr 10, 2006

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Rick on Too Secret To Find.


The most obvious line on this formation, this is a fun route with the crux at the top.
Climb up an easy hand crack then pull through on solid face holds to the slighly off-width trough. Struggle through the pod as the route gets harder and harder until a nice jug presents itself just over the roof (5.10b).
Pull the overhang on big holds to easier terrain to the top.


Pro is excellent up the entire route. Nuts and cams in the .5" to 3" range. Gear anchor (shared with "Balance Due") with an easy walk-off to the climber's left.

Photos of Too Secret to Find Slideshow Add Photo
Rock Climbing Photo: The crack up the center, with "Balance Due&qu...
BETA PHOTO: The crack up the center, with "Balance Due&qu...
Rock Climbing Photo: Rick climbing Too Secret To Find.
Rick climbing Too Secret To Find.
Rock Climbing Photo: hillary reaching the jug at the crux
hillary reaching the jug at the crux
Rock Climbing Photo: starting up 'Too Secret to Find'
starting up 'Too Secret to Find'

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By Taryn
From: San Diego, CA
Mar 19, 2007

Very fun route. The moves into and over the overhang are great. There is a rap anchor up top, which you can use for a number of climbs on this wall.
By TylerW
From: Flagstaff, AZ
Mar 25, 2011
rating: 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a

Does anybody know what was up with the old guidebook rating of 10d? did something fall off revealing a bigger hold? a typo? felt soft even for 10b.
By Donno
From: Newport Beach
Apr 20, 2011

I think the '92 guide has a typo in the text because the photo has the crux marked properly as "10b".
By Tradoholic
Feb 13, 2012
rating: 5.10- 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a

This is the line to do on this formation, good gear all the way to a juggy finish. I also felt it was a bit soft for 10b.
By Brad Leneis
Mar 23, 2012

One of the longer continuous cracks that I know of in J-Tree -- definitely worth the short-ish but steep scramble up the gully.
By susan peplow
From: Joshua Tree
Nov 14, 2013
rating: 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b

Great fun, rack for thin hands and fingers with a 4" cam for the mid-way pod. Upper section getting to the roof can be awkward if you're putting all your bacon in there as I did. Pulling the roof was not the crux or really requiring gear. 20+ years of climbing in Josh and my first trip to Hidden dome. Why?

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