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YDS: 5.11 French: 6c+ Ewbanks: 23 UIAA: VIII- ZA: 23 British: E4 5c A0

Type:  Trad, Aid, 1 pitch, 85'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.11c/d French: 7a Ewbanks: 24 UIAA: VIII ZA: 25 British: E4 6a A0 [details]
FA: FA: Bachar & Kauk, '75 w/ A.0 start, FFA Jonny Woodward & Kauk '85
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Submitted By: Orphaned on Jul 3, 2007

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Lizzy on Tips. It feels much steeper than it looks...

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Brutal face moves start past a bolt are free @ 5.12a (ha) but it is easier to use an aider to cheat to get to the crack. Really sound finger crack (albeit a little flaky circa 1994) lead up to anchors.

1980's photos of Peter Croft soloing the route float around climbing rags of the era. One of the best finger cracks in the Valley off the ground (a must do- please someone post a photo!), but lacks only a good start (being the crack does not touch down).


up a semi steep hill through trees to the base of the wall.


bolt, small stoppers and tcu's

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Rock Climbing Photo: The webbing ladder to avoid the super thin 5.12 st...
The webbing ladder to avoid the super thin 5.12 st...
Rock Climbing Photo: Peter Croft free solo  Photo taken by Greg Epperso...
Peter Croft free solo Photo taken by Greg Epperso...

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By Osprey Overhang
From: ...
Jan 7, 2012

FA: Charlie Porter, by 1975
FFA(W/A0 start): John Bachar, Ron Kauk, 1975
FFA: Jonny Woodward, Ron Kauk, 1985
By Brian Prince
From: morro bay, ca
Mar 29, 2014

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