By rging
From Salt Lake City, Ut
May 29, 2012
| Is anyone sick of the stories of traffic jams on Mount Everest from all the high altitude tourists? I think we need to raise funds and have those fellows that chopped the Compressor route go to Everst and pull the ladder from the Hilary step. After all you aren't free climbing if you use a ladder and its obviously damn difficult to get around it if you are willing to stand in line for hours freezing to death just to use it.
I wonder how many people have free climbed Everest?
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/23/mt-everest-suffers>>> | 
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By Jeff Chrisler
From Boulder, CO
May 29, 2012
| Couldn't agree more, but will it happen? Hell no. Too much money, and not enough people like Russel Brice. |
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By Finn the Human
From The Land of Ooo
May 29, 2012
| I'm pretty sure I once read that the actual climbing required on Everest is no harder than 5.6, it's just the lack of oxygen that makes it difficult. |
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By camhead
May 29, 2012
| Uhhh... someone way more qualified than me can respond to this thread:
"Who really cares about the trash up there (have you ever been to India or Nepal where a rubbish dump is called ‘the other side of your garden wall’!). Who’s bothered about the fixed ropes, pegs and bolts apart from those who see them and have to trust them? You can’t rape a mountain you idiot, only an idea, and when that idea is simply “X is higher than Y” then who cares?"
www.andy-kirkpatrick.com/blog/view/everest_sucking_on_the_ba>>> |
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By slim
May 29, 2012
| i just realized that more money is spent each year climbing everest than some countries GDP's. |
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By Trad Nanny
May 29, 2012
| The shit storm post ripping the ladder off would be worth it in and of itself! Considering the jokers that have bought their way up that thing the accomplishment has certainly been deminished. Now, when peoeple are asked "Why?" they say "Because I'm rich and bored." |
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By Killing In The Name Of
May 29, 2012
| I'm with you, Nick. I'd take ladders down just to go down in history as "that guy." Maybe I could get you+Ken Nichols to sign on to a Fuck All Posers Worldwide Everest expedition, we could trundle anything not made of snow, ice, or rock off. EPIC TRUNDLE!
Really though, Everest sounds a lot like Rifle crossed with a Mormon swimming pool-just gene pool draincatch fiesta, kinda hard to want to be there even to bum out the tourons.
Ya think they'll get a solar-powered escalator up there eventually? |
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By Fall Guy
May 29, 2012
| The Dread Pirate Killis wrote: I'm with you, Nick. I'd take ladders down just to go down in history as "that guy." Maybe I could get you+Ken Nichols to sign on to a Fuck All Posers Worldwide Everest expedition, we could trundle anything not made of snow, ice, or rock off. EPIC TRUNDLE! Really though, Everest sounds a lot like Rifle crossed with a Mormon swimming pool-just gene pool draincatch fiesta, kinda hard to want to be there even to bum out the tourons. Ya think they'll get a solar-powered escalator up there eventually?
since you bring up your idol Ken Nichols Killis, tell us which 5.12!!!!SPORT route it was that Misty saw you furiously hangdogging on. would Ken have been hangdogging at a sport crag? |
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By Eric Engberg
May 29, 2012
| rging wrote: Is anyone sick of the stories of traffic jams on Mount Everest from all the high altitude tourists? I think we need to raise funds and have those fellows that chopped the Compressor route go to Everst and pull the ladder from the Hilary step. After all you aren't free climbing if you use a ladder and its obviously damn difficult to get around it if you are willing to stand in line for hours freezing to death just to use it. I wonder how many people have free climbed Everest? www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/23/mt-everest-suffers>>> Classic arm chair mountainerring - ranting - confusion of "Steps" on the north and south sides of Everest. Thinking bolts are involved. Why don't you all read a little more and post a little less? At least until you can get a few facts straight. |
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By FrankPS
From Atascadero, CA
May 29, 2012
| Who cares if they are "free climbing" it? You are welcome to climb it without the ladders, if you choose.
Come to think of it, this whole rock climbing thing is too dangerous. Inherently so. :) |
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By Curt Nelson
From Fort Collins, CO
May 29, 2012
| Conrad was on the second step on the north ridge, not on the Hilary step... they both have ladders for the tourests though. Trundle away. How did you know I was in an arm chair? |
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By Woodchuck ATC
May 29, 2012
| Alpine or seige tactics both still in use. The problem is that too many non-mountaineers can afford the huge price tag and get to go no matter what. Dragged up/down Everest is nothing to brag about it seems. Just too many people per season now days, pre monsoon at least. |
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By matt davies
May 29, 2012
| They'd better not mess with that ladder, way too many insurance conferences will be deprived of a keynote speaker. |
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By Brent Apgar
From Out of the Loop
May 29, 2012
|
By far the best thing I've read written by a climber in a long time.
I think that Andy, in a lot of ways, touches on many of the arguments going on in the climbing world with what he says.
Makes me think of an old quote about the realm of academia.
"The battles are so fierce because the stakes are so low." -HK |
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By Trad Nanny
May 29, 2012
| matt davies wrote: They'd better not mess with that ladder, way too many insurance conferences will be deprived of a keynote speaker.
Best comment ever. |
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By Killing In The Name Of
May 30, 2012
| mobley wrote: since you bring up your idol Ken Nichols Killis, tell us which 5.10 SPORT route it was that Misty saw you furiously hangdogging on. would Ken have been hangdogging at a sport crag?
Mobley, interesting that you're both an admin violating Guideline #1, flagrantly, and that you seem to be knee-deep in St George/Mesquite gossip from a couple of years ago. It was three-hanging a .12b my buddy was projecting, btw. That's the only climb I had the privelege of being watched by your close personal friend on.
Am I correct in thinking that this post is from the same Mobley who claimed a near-epic fall from Disco Duck .10a in LCC? Since you've thrown down the grade-equals-worth argument in a forum about Everest issues, just for context?
Since mobley's an admin, this post will be deleted. Hope those that saw it will have enjoyed.
In response to your post, I'd take a bolt chopper over someone abusing their position to insult a stranger any day. |
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By Daryl Allan
From Sierra Vista, AZ
May 30, 2012
| Has anyone noticed battlenet is down? wtf already Blizz? |
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By Killing In The Name Of
May 30, 2012
| Ok, this is weird. I posted up a thread about mobley's comment in Discuss MP thread, and it's been deleted....FOUR TIMES. Nothing happening to the original posts. Is that weird? |
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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
May 30, 2012
| Some admin appears to be either butthurt or responding to a brah's butthurtedness. As The Proj Turns. |
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By matt davies
May 30, 2012
| The Dread Pirate Killis wrote: Is it bad if I hangdog a 5.3 and someone sees it?
I whipped on Kiener's (off) Route- true story. |
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By Fall Guy
May 30, 2012
| cool I finally have a fan in my club, welcome killis! if you would like I'll send you more pics of myself in Maple, AF, Ibex, Joes Valley, the Gunks AND Indian Creek to save you the time of stalking me. just PM me bro, let the haters hate! |
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