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Cramming 
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This and That 
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Walk, Don't Run (aka The Bouldering Arch) 
Whim 

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Getting started on Cramming

Description 

A smaller cliff downstream of New Diversions sporting some good routes including Cramming, Tips, and Stubs.


Getting There 

from Meyers 1986
"The Upper Routes (Weird Scenes...Agent Orange) are approached from above. Park at the Owl Roof turnout on highway 120. Locate the B-1 marker beside the road and hike down to the edge of the cliff. Bring one rope for the rappel approach and one rope with which to climb out. The other routes are approached from Hwy 140, starting from a gravel parking area across from some houses. 1.5 miles down west of the Hwy 120/140 junction. Two main climber's trails access the cliff.
One goes straight up to Tips; the eastern one heads for Cramming."


The Classics

Mountain Project's determination of some of the classic, most popular, highest rated routes for This and That Cliff:
Walk, Don't Run (aka The Bouldering Arch)   V0     Boulder, 35 feet   
Said and Done   5.9     Trad, 1 pitch, 70 feet   
Whim   5.9     Trad, 1 pitch, 90 feet   
This and That   5.10c     Trad, 3 pitches   
Cramming   5.10d     Trad, 1 pitch, 70 feet   
Tips   5.11 A0     Trad, Aid, 1 pitch, 85 feet   
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Featured Route For This and That Cliff
Lizzy on Tips. It feels much steeper than it looks.

Tips 5.11 A0  CA : Yosemite National Park : ... : This and That Cliff
Brutal face moves start past a bolt are free @ 5.12a (ha) but it is easier to use an aider to cheat to get to the crack. Really sound finger crack (albeit a little flaky circa 1994) lead up to anchors.1980's photos of Peter Croft soloing the route float around climbing rags of the era. One of the best finger cracks in the Valley off the ground (a must do- please someone post a photo!), but lacks only a good start (being the crack does not touch down)....[more]   Browse More Classics in CA


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By Osprey
From: ...
Jan 26, 2010

The houses mentioned above were abandoned by the Park Service after the flood and have been demolished and are now removed. Look for a grassy area next to a house sized boulder. Park at the pullout for Cascade falls and walk up the highway past a couple of curves to find the large boulder. Walk past the boulder and look for an small rock retaining wall with a couple of steps. Hike uphill from there. This is how you access the Tips side of the cliff. Lookout for poison oak!
You can also park across the highway from the boulder, but this parking option is small.

By Rob Dillon
From: '81 Sunrader
Jan 26, 2010

The best way to get to Cramming is to take the trail to Tips and walk the base from there- the alleged eastern trail is more of a shoe-filling dirt escalator through poison oak on a steep, eroding hillside. Other than that, it's great!