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YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- British: HVS 4c

Type: Sport, 60'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- British: HVS 4c [details]
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Submitted By: Crossing on Nov 25, 2011
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Work you way up either side of the slaby face, then using big holds climb the overhanging face to the anchors.


Starts at a 6 foot wide slaby face.


4 bolts to rap rings.

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By Larry S
Nov 28, 2011
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ MVS 4b

If you climb the arete on the left of the bolts, the climb is very easy once you're past the first bolt. 5.7 maybe? I haven't done the inside corner to the right yet, but that may be the full 5.10 variation. Watch for some loose stuff halfway up.

By Seth Derr
From: harrisburg, pa
Dec 14, 2011

I believe if you follow the slab straight up, avoiding the jugs to the left until the top, it is 5.10. I also believe that is a bit contrived, and there are enough quality 5.10's at safe harbor that this route should be downgraded to reflect the line of least resistance. I'd give it an .8