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By Johny Q
Sep 22, 2011
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Lisa Colorado wrote:
"if you were scared on the route, you probably should have had some drugs in your system." So what you're saying is, the majority of climbers who responded to this post are (The word I want to use will get me banned, starts with a 'p') who can only overcome their fear by drowning it in substances. How pathetic! Climb sober and see what happens. :O)



Funny how you ask a question just to lash out at the people who disagree. Do you wonder what I think is pathetic? Your troll that went lame and the anger you display at having it not go your way.


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By P.K.
Sep 22, 2011

While I usually don't condone the use of drugs or alcohol in anyway....I usually climb at least 3 grades higher while on PCP (like 5.6 to 5.9), so in that instance it is ok. Otherwise to the OP, it is not your business how stupid other people are acting if it does not affect you personally.


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By Keen Butterworth
From Boulder
Sep 22, 2011
Bouldering on Rabbit Mtn. Photo by Forrest Weller



Or bouldering... too easy to fall asleep mid problem. Not good.


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By Lisa Colorado
From Denver, CO
Sep 22, 2011

Johny Q wrote:
Funny how you ask a question just to lash out at the people who disagree. Do you wonder what I think is pathetic? Your troll that went lame and the anger you display at having it not go your way.


No anger. No judgment (other than safety concerns). I was just curious. Seems ya'll read waaaaaay too into this question. Actually, I'm curious about what you originally wanted to comment....the raunchier the better!

(if you knew i wrote that question high, would it change anything?)


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By Boissal
From Small Lake, UT
Sep 22, 2011

Lisa Colorado wrote:
No judgment

Lisa Colorado wrote:
How pathetic!

Well well well, what do we have here?

And please, go ahead, and spell you P word. Reducing the background noise caused by yet another narrow-minded sheep would be refreshing.


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By Copperhead
Sep 22, 2011

Lisa Colorado wrote:
No anger. No judgment (other than safety concerns). I was just curious. Seems ya'll read waaaaaay too into this question. Actually, I'm curious about what you originally wanted to comment....the raunchier the better! (if you knew i wrote that question high, would it change anything?)

Now don't tell me that Lisa Colorado is from Texas!


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By Morgan Patterson
Administrator
Sep 22, 2011
Stoked...

Frosty Weller wrote:
Weed? I don't particularly care for it either, especially while climbing.


Frosty's lookin a little toasty in this one . . . nice!


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By Cor
Sep 22, 2011
black nasty

Lisa,

you are too serious, go get high then respond...

i was kidding when i spoke of being scared on a route / take drugs.

btw, i climb sober, and sober with a beer now and then.
(the beer is for tasting purposes, not to get drunk...)

do you enjoy taste? do you ever go to a bar or restraunt,
have a beer with friends, then drive your car home?
what is the difference of driving home, and having a beer
(for taste) while belaying?


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By JoeP
From Littleton, CO
Sep 22, 2011

Lisa Colorado wrote:
No anger. No judgment (other than safety concerns). I was just curious. Seems ya'll read waaaaaay too into this question. Actually, I'm curious about what you originally wanted to comment....the raunchier the better! (if you knew i wrote that question high, would it change anything?)


I call BS on the no judgment and that you are simply curious. You edited your initial post, which included a question to the effect of "who do you report these people to?" Implied in that question is that you would, and believe it is right to, report people for behavior you deem improper or "unsafe." Thus, you have already made a judgment on such behavior.

As for your alleged concern about safety, that is a thinly veiled attempt at covering up what you really mean, that you think such behavior is improper.

Everyone has their own acceptable levels of risk in climbing, so stop worrying about others choices when they have no impact on your own safety.

I think Boissal answered your "question" pretty well.


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By Will S
From Joshua Tree
Sep 22, 2011

jon vandub wrote:
if you smoke regularly, you can do ANYTHING stoned. if you do only occasionally get stoned, you normally cant do shit!


This bears repeating.


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By Joe Huggins
From 666 Rue le Jour-Edge City
Sep 22, 2011
mmmm....tree

Reminds me of the time in the mid '70s, I was driving a pickup truck through the Texas night, having swallowed a purple microdot shortly before starting my shift as driver. With a bunch of underclassmen under the shell in back, asleep, I spoke with the college woman who had joined us in S Mo. Eventually, the subject of drugs came up- she was pretty sure they were all very bad. She didn't believe me when I said that acid wasn't as bad as people made it out to be. I said that I could be trippin' my balls off at that very moment, (which I was,thank you very much!)and she wouldn't even know! She was absolutely sure-she would know if I were tripping...


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By Kyle Judson
From Colorado
Sep 22, 2011
Deep water 5.9+ jugs at a secret spot

justin dubois wrote:
(cough) UPTIGHT GAPERS!(cough cough)


+1 to Justin Dubois
Just because a climber smokes pot or has a couple beers doesn't NECESSARILY mean he or she is a bad belay. I've had bad belays from a couple of you strait edges too. I have stoner friends I trust my life to regularly. A good belayer should be vigilant at all times so don't lose your break hand to light a bowl... Just wait till your climber's back down. You shouldn't be "Bogarting" that bowl anyway. I will say some people are more likely to "space out" than others. It effects everyone differently. I love beer and i believe it makes many things better... Including a sunny day cragging. Obviously don't climb or belay drunk... But a couple beers throughout the day? Totally cool with me.


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By Cor
Sep 22, 2011
black nasty

so let's sum this all up for lisa...


care meter <br />
care meter


(you know i am just kidding, right?!)


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By Buff Johnson
Sep 22, 2011
smiley face

That must be a male gauge. I can't tell you how many conversations I've had about whether my emotional commitment was less than that of getting past some pi.


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By Johny Q
Sep 22, 2011
My profile

Lisa Colorado wrote:
No anger. No judgment (other than safety concerns). I was just curious. Seems ya'll read waaaaaay too into this question. Actually, I'm curious about what you originally wanted to comment....the raunchier the better! (if you knew i wrote that question high, would it change anything?)



If you run away from the conversation how will I discuss my raunchy comment that you are so anxious to hear about? Obviously, you must really not be that interested in what people have to say if their opinion differs from yours. And I thought that narrow minded people such as yourself had gumption, not in this case I guess. Never have I seen a troll run from the mess they created, usually that is part of the fun. I guess two opinions is one too many for your small mind.


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By Ed Wright
Sep 22, 2011
Magic Ed

Craig McCudden belaying on the FA of Estrellita, Potrero Chico.
Craig McCudden belaying on the FA of Estrellita, Potrero Chico.


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By Alais 1
Sep 22, 2011

Stop Snitchin
Stop Snitchin

Sorry Had to do it, I even created an alias account so I could, mind you're own business.

Edit to add, mind your business and Ill mind my own. Anybody else wish there was a way to turn in self righteousness?


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By J.J
Sep 22, 2011

Lisa Colorado wrote:
No anger. No judgment (other than safety concerns). I was just curious. Seems ya'll read waaaaaay too into this question. Actually, I'm curious about what you originally wanted to comment....the raunchier the better! (if you knew i wrote that question high, would it change anything?)

So, you wanna like, climb together?


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By Unassigned User
Sep 23, 2011

Ed, love the pic!!!


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By Unassigned User
Sep 23, 2011

Keen, you should put the pic back on! That's as good as it get's!!


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By Unassigned User
Sep 23, 2011

Keen, you should put the pic back on! That's as good as it get's!!


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By Ben Beckerich
From saint helens, oregon
Sep 23, 2011
About half way up the East Arete on Illumination Rock

Monomaniac wrote:
Absolutely not true. Though it is a common coping mechanism to delude one's self into believing that everyone else is just as fucked up as you are.


i dont drink or smoke, holms.


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By Tradoholic
Sep 23, 2011

I know people who are totally on top of their game when high and others who are down right stupid. One guy I used to climb with, weed was his coffee, he got totally jazzed and focused while high, another guy was totally in another world and couldn't do shit.

Know your belayor.


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By Josh Olson
From madison, wisconsin
Sep 23, 2011
Looking at a 5.7 crack with Nick

Cor wrote:
ps: nice picture trad ninja, i must be on lsd, i see a rainbow of colors going across that guys shirt!


+1


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By J.J
Sep 23, 2011

JoeP wrote:
I call BS on the no judgment and that you are simply curious. You edited your initial post, which included a question to the effect of "who do you report these people to?" Implied in that question is that you would, and believe it is right to, report people for behavior you deem improper or "unsafe." Thus, you have already made a judgment on such behavior. As for your alleged concern about safety, that is a thinly veiled attempt at covering up what you really mean, that you think such behavior is improper. Everyone has their own acceptable levels of risk in climbing, so stop worrying about others choices when they have no impact on your own safety. I think Boissal answered your "question" pretty well.

You're the one doing the judging!


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