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Tabby Treat 

YDS: 5.1 French: 2 Ewbanks: 6 UIAA: II ZA: 7 British: MD 2a

Type:  Trad, 2 pitches, 300'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.2 French: 3 Ewbanks: 8 UIAA: II ZA: 8 British: D 2c [details]
FA: Charlie and Paul Raymond, May 1968
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Submitted By: Roger Linfield on Jan 27, 2006

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BETA PHOTO: We did it in three pitches, ending the first pitch...


This climb and Little Murders (not far to the right) are the best routes under 5.6 at Suicide. Tabby Treat has two pitches of fairly well-protected climbing up a prominent dihedral. The rock is a bit loose. Walk off right to descend.


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By Randy in Ridgecrest
From: Inyokern, CA
May 29, 2013
rating: 5.3 3+ 10 III 9 VD 3a

For over 50 years Tabby Treat has been the first route and first lead for many many climbers. I think it does well for that but it's not a trivial route. The second pitch is easier than the first, even though both are rated 5.1. There is a section on the first pitch above the tree that is comparable in difficulty to the "5.5" crux of the first pitch of Graham Crackers. This is a somewhat slippery lieback that is difficult to stop and place pro on. The second pitch is straight forward except at the top of the dihedral there is always poised loose rock. The leader should avoid that by climbing up the excellent easy flake/crack a few feet to the left of the book. placing a cam in a horizontal crack under the roof cap keeps the rope out of that danger zone too. Belay to the right on the big ledge at the top of the dihedral for better communication. Head up for another short 4th class pitch or scramble off right down the broken ledge.
By Ben Crowell
Sep 13, 2015
rating: 5.3 3+ 10 III 9 VD 3a

The layback at the start of the second pitch was fun. That section and a couple of the moves on the first pitch were at least 5.3, so the 5.1 rating in the Gaines guidebook is pretty sandbagged IMO. In general I thought this climb was nothing special and probably not worth the approach unless you have a lot of other stuff in the area you want to do. The rock quality also isn't so great. I found it somewhat difficult to protect in spots. It mostly uses thin gear, although 1"-3" cams are useful for the belay anchors. A lot of the placements that I did find were for micro nuts. Many potential gear placements were in flaring cracks or between loose-looking flakes. Because the pro isn't always straightforward or high quality, I'm not sure I would recommend this as a first lead.
By Bob Gaines
Sep 16, 2015
rating: 5.4 4a 12 IV 10 VD 3c

The first pitch (5.0) has good pro and a bomber gear anchor if you belay on the ledge a bit higher than the bush (2-inch CDs). I agree with Ben about the second pitch being somewhat difficult to protect with the rock being a little funky.

I rated the second pitch at 5.4 in the new guidebook (Best Climbs Tahquitz and Suicide Rocks).

This is one of those climbs that is popular simply because it's easy- and there aren't that many easy routes at Suicide Rock.
By Daniel Evans
From: N Scottsdale, AZ
Sep 28, 2015

Gear placements proved difficult due to poor quality rock. Pitch 2 had a few 5.5 moves but not overly difficult. A new leader could find much better routes to tick off for their first lead.

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