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May 9, 2012
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After climbing with a few people I've met on mp I think it would be nice to have a rating/feedback section for potential climbing partners. Something simple, like a 1-4 star rating and a "Would or would not climb with them again." Being able to provide public feedback would be nice. That way you wouldn't end up climbing with someone who might overstate their ability. Or if they are solid you could let other climbers know they are good to go. Jake M
From San Diego, CA
Joined Mar 10, 2012
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May 9, 2012
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after...
This is a good idea, except that it's too open to interpretation. If the guy/gal belays good and climbs hard, but smells putrid and listens to Alanis Morissette, I'd still be inclined to give only one or two stars and not climb with them again. I think more detailed parameters would have to be defined. Just my $.02. Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Joined Jul 30, 2011
1,005 points
May 9, 2012
muttonface wrote:
This is a good idea, except that it's too open to interpretation. If the guy/gal belays good and climbs hard, but smells putrid and listens to Alanis Morissette, I'd still be inclined to give only one or two stars and not climb with them again. I think more detailed parameters would have to be defined. Just my $.02.


HAHAHAHAHA

agreed
S.Stelli
From Colorado Springs, CO
Joined Dec 21, 2009
171 points
May 9, 2012
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nice one muttonface.

while the subject of overstating ones abilities is brought up, do people's ratings on their page reflect hardest route sent? or usual onsight ability?
Shelton Hatfield
Joined Apr 18, 2011
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May 9, 2012
This could be totally hilarious.

Sorry boys, if this is a feature you would find useful, you are probably a 1.
caughtinside
From Oakland CA
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May 9, 2012
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after...
Shelton Hatfield wrote:
nice one muttonface. while the subject of overstating ones abilities is brought up, do people's ratings on their page reflect hardest route sent? or usual onsight ability?


Mine is pretty much OS ability, but I'm sure there are a few exceptions. None that I can think of, but I'm headed to Seneca this weekend to get humbled.
Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Joined Jul 30, 2011
1,005 points
May 9, 2012
Gunking
Shelton Hatfield wrote:
nice one muttonface. while the subject of overstating ones abilities is brought up, do people's ratings on their page reflect hardest route sent? or usual onsight ability?


I list the hardest boulder I can wrangle, sport climbs I can reasonably do in a few tries, and my consistent trad onsight grade. Since that is how I climb those routes, it makes sense to me.
JohnWesely
From Red River Gorge
Joined Nov 21, 2009
673 points
May 9, 2012
Bucky
JohnWesely wrote:
sport climbs I can reasonably do in a few tries, and my consistent trad onsight grade.


I think that this a reasonable way to do it (that is in fact what I do), but I guarantee that this is not what a lot of folks do.
J. Albers
From Colorado
Joined Jul 11, 2008
2,223 points
May 9, 2012
Whaaaat?
I give this idea 1 star BackCountry
From Ogden, UT
Joined Oct 29, 2009
421 points
Maybe break it down into catagories.

Something like:
Climbing ability
Coolness factor
Beverage choice
If applicable hottness.
Music choice

That should help even us single guys out...
May 9, 2012
This is starting to sound like Olympic figure skating scores. J C Wilks
From Loveland, CO
Joined Aug 29, 2006
301 points
May 9, 2012
Seems like a reasonable request. I've tried to use the partner finder database before, and I think it's pretty much useless in its current state. There are too many people in it that are not interested in finding partners, a lot of times this is because they no longer climb. Rating routes is completely subjective, but we do that, might as well do people. Better to get search results of 5 people that are psyched to climb rather than 500 that are going to do things like show up two hours late because they were too hung over.


Also, I think I've made the suggestions multiple times before that search results need to be sortable, with additional columns like 'date of last visit to mountain project', and 'date they added themselves to the partner finder database'; to help weed out some of the people that visited mtn. project once after they climbed outside once five years ago. Membership in the database should expire and have to be renewed every couple of years.
Steve Pulver
From Williston, ND
Joined Dec 12, 2003
538 points
May 9, 2012
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Pea...
The Whisper Campaign and Internet troll have been and always will be the time honored partner slandering avenues. Putting it into some sort of star rating on a website is stupid. Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Joined Jan 1, 2001
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May 9, 2012
Colonel Mustard
mountainproject.com wouldn't fuck this idea with your dick. Colonel Mustard
Joined Sep 13, 2005
1,367 points
Several years ago I ventured out into the realm of social media to see what a "friend" was. From that experience I can give amazing advice for MP.com. We need a little box on our home screen that tells you potential partners. It could figure this out by other people you have climbed with, location ect.
Matter of fact, why can we not "friend" our favorites in partner finder.

Mr suckenberg I have a new social media site for you!!
May 9, 2012
eh... in theory, not bad, but how to validate the trolls that would just randomly f with someone and put bad reviews up without having climbed with them. Jeff Chrisler
From Boulder, CO
Joined Jun 22, 2009
161 points
May 9, 2012
Jose Cuervo Fruitcups dirtbag style
Only three parameters that matter:

Hot __
Single __
Willing __

Check all that apply.
doligo
Joined Sep 26, 2008
408 points
May 9, 2012
Stich wrote:
The Whisper Campaign and Internet troll have been and always will be the time honored partner slandering avenues.


This is the way its always been done, seems like an argument my grandmother would use.

Andrew Haag wrote:
To hell with adventure.


Sitting in a parking lot trying to figure out if someone is actually going to show up isn't my kind of adventure
Steve Pulver
From Williston, ND
Joined Dec 12, 2003
538 points
May 9, 2012
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Pea...
Well, if someone is super flakey, it will most definitely be passed around via the whisper campaign within the climbing community. If someone is a super cool partner, you'll get recommendations and even hookups via your old partners.

If you have a severely negative experience with a partner you can:

1. Troll about it via mp.com or another site
2. Hide the person's identity, but use your own real name and craft a delightful story about your outing (See Big Wall Mike).

What's good about all of the above is that it is a one time thing that can in fact encourage the person to stop being flakey, lying about their abilities, etc. But a little rating on a website just sort of sits there forever like the scarlet letter. And it's so tasteless. I mean, zero drama involved, no funnies, no trolling hilarity, no recourse for the accused via the forums. If that's progress...
Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Joined Jan 1, 2001
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May 9, 2012
J. Albers wrote:
I think that this a reasonable way to do it (that is in fact what I do), but I guarantee that this is not what a lot of folks do.


I talked to a guide that said he ignores what people tell him about their ability, too many people say they climb 5.11 or some such thing in the gym then can't do a 5.7 move when he takes them outside.

Stich wrote:
But a little rating on a website just sort of sits there forever like the scarlet letter. And it's so tasteless. I mean, zero drama involved, no funnies, no trolling hilarity, no recourse for the accused via the forums. If that's progress...


good point, but I would guess there might be a middle ground way of handling these issues.
Steve Pulver
From Williston, ND
Joined Dec 12, 2003
538 points
May 9, 2012
Andrew Haag wrote:
And a partner finder rating system would insure you dont have to wait in a parking lot......ok? If you have a hard time finding good climbing parnters. It might be because you yourself are not that great of a teamate."not aimed at steve"



I think might be less likely that I would wait in the parking lot.
Steve Pulver
From Williston, ND
Joined Dec 12, 2003
538 points
May 9, 2012
Maybe putting a date on a review of a person would allow people to decide if the person may have changed, and maybe not using stars, but rather just a brief sentence about their experience with the person. 'I was in the middle of the crux and looked down, and he had taken his belay device off and was smoking a doobie'

Andrew Haag wrote:
If you have a hard time finding good climbing parnters. It might be because you yourself are not that great of a teamate."not aimed at steve"

Speaking of bad partners. It reminds me of this time I met a partner for the first time in the mid '90's to go do something in Cochise. We drove separately. I was doing about 70 down Middlemarch road (gravel windy road) when I lost control and was sure I was going to roll it. So I don't, but I get high centered up on an embankment. He comes along behind me and we spend about two hours getting my car down. He then tells me it would be best if we part ways, except he doesn't say it so nicely.
Steve Pulver
From Williston, ND
Joined Dec 12, 2003
538 points
May 9, 2012
Sport Climber
caughtinside wrote:
This could be totally hilarious. Sorry boys, if this is a feature you would find useful, you are probably a 1.

Spot on, you must be a 5!
David Stephens
From Spokane WA.
Joined Feb 4, 2006
1,150 points
May 9, 2012
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "...
doligo wrote:
Only three parameters that matter: Hot __ Single __ Willing __ Check all that apply.

1) Close your eyes
2) Loosen your standards
3) The only thing left that matters.

(Giggle)
Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Joined Jan 1, 2001
23,510 points
May 9, 2012
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "...
In actual fact, when I've had good luck with a person Ive met here and I see a climbing partner wanted post from them, I post on it and describe why I'd want to climb with them again. It's an easy way to put a word in, if you happen to see such a posting.

Another odd way to do this that MIGHT be workable is to create a "partner" designation (not glabally viewable) that can notify you when a person posts on the partner board... but then again, that would make a stalker's job too easy, right?
Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Joined Jan 1, 2001
23,510 points
May 9, 2012
Mathematical!
glabally Finn the Human
From The Land of Ooo
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