Stone Wave 

A friend of mine thinks this route is soft, especially compared to No More Tiers. I think 11a is right for the lower boulder problem, but who rates the first 10 feet of a T-Wall climb? The rest is more like 10+.

I would offer a different opinion. It took me a couple of years to sack up and press out that starting move, and I'm pretty sure I pulled up the rack after I stood up. This was not my first-ever .11a, so I felt safe in asserting that the move was harder than that. Of course, no move in the first 10 feet counts towards the route's grade, so call it what you like.

The rest is straightforward fingers.

As for someone thinking this route is soft, I would be interested in knowing if they stick clipped a nut up high to negotiate the start. As for the first ten feet not counting, nonsense. If you can blow it and bust your ass in those first ten feet.... then it counts.

Hah. I don't consider this route (or anything at the T Wall for that matter) soft. My previous comment was poking fun at the frustrating tendency of T Wall route beginnings being quite hard!

I've managed to stick clip a stopper above the opening moves... Saved me on my first try.

You can nasty through just right of the mantle (savage bearhug) at about the same grade (11a har har har) with some semidecent pro. Sick route, 5 star.

It is soft compared to Fly with the Falcon, but that is not saying much.

have wanted to get on this for a while and finally did a few weeks ago. couldn't even get past the start...shameful utter smack down. i don't see how that start is v1/v2...maybe a seriously high gravity day or very poor beta...dunno.