|Stinky Stash Wall
|Please respect this beautiful area. Stay on established trails and do not trample any vegetation|
Please respect this beautiful area. Stay on established trails and do not trample any vegetation
This is a rather unobvious wall of quarzite with the usual bands of non or semi-metamorphosed sandstone on many of the routes along with some lichen and other vegetable matter thrown in for good measure.
In the middle there is a short wall (30'-50') that has six bolted routes and seven gear routes that are 5.7-5.10 in difficulty. Routes on both the left and right side of the short wall have been bouldered.
For clarity the routes are numbered from left to right starting with a number. None of the gear routes have names and are noted only so that people know they exist though several are worth doing. The ordering, just by coincidence, is that every other route is a bolt or gear route.
On the west side of Cecret Lake take the trail leading up and west towards the Sugarloaf lift which brings one to Cecret Pass. The west facing wall on the left is the Stinky Stash.
This is also the same approach one takes for the Green Stash Wall which is to the left around the corner and Cecret Stash which is around to the right.
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['4 Stars',0],['3 Stars',0],['2 Stars',5],['1 Star',8],['Bomb',0]
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|Comments on Stinky Stash Wall
|By Brian in SLC|
Aug 2, 2007
I wonder if the routes aren't worth of a name, then why bother reporting them? That way, if other folks climb and name them, at least they'll have a name and then at that later time you can chime in with, "hey, we climbed them back when but didn't bother naming them".
See "Decandent Wall" at the City of Rocks for example.
Rather than have most the routes there called, "Greg Lowe route #45"., they have memorable names now. Otherwise, they wouldn't have.
Anywhoo, this issue is applicable to these routes in the database, and could be a forum topic, but, best addressed right here, IMHO.
|By Allen Sanderson|
Aug 2, 2007
Think of them like Beethoven symphonies which were numbered - naming them would not improve on his inspiration and vision that went into creating such exquisite pieces of work. Nor could a name bring more joy to those who experience them. Experience them as they are and for what they are worth. ;-)
"That way, if other folks climb and name them, at least they'll have a name and then at that later time you can chime in with, "hey, we climbed them back when but didn't bother naming them"."
Should Beethoven have not published even his worst? Only to have some one else perform it and call it their own? Besides would Beethoven want to see new instruments (hardware) added to his creations when it was perfect as it was originally? I think not.
|By Greg Martinez|
From: SLC UTAH
Aug 3, 2007
you can go see Scott & crew @IME i sell topos to this area and more 10 DOLLARS 120 PLUS CLIMBS
From: Salt Lake City
Aug 4, 2007
"Given that there is much new interest and development in this area there is bound to be some mistakes."
Allan, the interest is not new, Greg has been up there pounding away for 3 summers now. Only recently did the info about the climbs get out. Other's like Luke, TP, and Bobby have also been up there putting up routes. And the numbered routes you posted are a slap in the face. Keep it up and down rating climbs like this and soon no topo will be sold at IME, or any of the MULTIPLE AREA'S NOT currently in them which are under construction will not be printed or drawn up.
I'm posting this here and not in a thread because people should know that this area has long been in work and the climbs are awesome. You coming along and badly rating these climbs is retarded, but not as much as putting up lines that are in reach of bolts of other climbs which are obviously better and MEANT to go in a certain direction. If Greg or anyone wanted to put up the lines you just did, and only had crappy trad lines they would have. Instead they opted to bolt better lines!
EVERYONE GREG'S ROUTES HERE AND AROUND ARE FUN AND AWESOME. Some are better then others and none are a or should be rated anything near a BOMB? Don't believe me go see for yourself!!!
|By Allen Sanderson|
Aug 4, 2007
The mistakes I was referring to are the route names and their respective location on this crag specifically. I believe now all have been corrected. Unfortunately, Greg's original comments did not quite help out enough and they are new enough they are not in the guide. Which is why some mistakes were made in the first place.
Only one bolted climb was poorly rated and that was because it has adequate and safe natural gear placements from bottom to top. I and others think it is in poor form to be placing bolts on routes like that. There are many things that go into a rating - for each person it is different. That said I merged the gear/bolt version into one and called it a one star.
People seem to forget that any and everyone can rate the difficulty and quality of each and every climb within Mtn. Project and arrive at a concenus - that is the beauty of the site. So far only Greg, who gave it a one star and I have bothered to rate the climb in question. Of the other bolted climbs, Greg and I agreed on two and differed by only one star on two other. So that is hardly badly rating the routes. IMHO 35'-50' routes whether trad or bolted with only a few moves deserve more than one star.
The numbering order was done so that it would make it easier to know which route was which rather than having to search them to find the fifth route from the left or right. This is a problem through out Mtn. Project when there is a high concentration of routes in one area. I changed the numbering to be independent of the type of route and used the actual route name where appropriate, hopefully that will be less objectional.