By Eric Reeves From El Paso, Texas Sep 21, 2012
| In a lot of gym situations, I rarely have a spotter. The reason is that I have less trust in a novice spotter than on none at all. I'd rather hit the pad than take a stiff arm to the head. The gym I boulder at is really a rec center with a wall that a few climbers and I commandeered. There have been times when I was told to have a spotter by a staff member, but both times I was making the first move barely off the ground. In a situation like that, the spotter would be more in the way than helpful and it takes practice to learn those things. So, I agree with JesseT. It is a great place to practice spotting and pad placement. I know that outside I can pull much harder when I know my spotter is competent. If I have to be worried about how I will land after that big throw, I probably won't throw as hard. |  FLAG |
By Howrad McGreehan Sep 26, 2012
| Charles Kinbote wrote: How exactly is a spot going to save someone's knee or ankle in a gym with good, seamless padding? And you answered your own question, here:
Charles Kinbote wrote: but you are changing their natural trajectory. Carefully read what you write. |  FLAG |
By CaptainMo Administrator Sep 26, 2012
| Taylor Ogden wrote: I also know a girl who fell awkwardly while bouldering and fractured several vertebrae. I'm sure she would have appreciated a spotter as well. Yeah . . . Same happened at a comp back here in CT and she even fell onto the mats. Landed on a seam i think. |  FLAG |
By BoulderJunke Sep 30, 2012
| I watched a girl about three weeks ago crush a vertabrae on the big fluffy floor. I also think knowing how to fall plays a big part in getting hurt with or without a spotter. I like the towel idea...I never ask for a spotter inside, but outside I rarely have trust in my spotters, although admitedly I`m not the best spotter either. |  FLAG |
By Jon Nelson Administrator Sep 30, 2012
| Does a spotter help or hurt the falling climber? Has this really been tested? People are very heavy masses. So, unless a spotter can put his or her hands just a few inches from the climber's shoulder, or if the climber is much, much lighter than the spotter, can a spotter really do much to slow a part of a falling body? I mean, if someone dropped a 100-lb bag of sand from 4-feet above you, do you think you could actually divert it's fall? I couldn't. Most climbers are heavier than 100 lbs. Or does a spotter tend to make the falling climber less likely to flail his or her limbs to reorient before crashing? Or could the spotter's hit to the shoulder cause whiplash? It could be that in many cases, the spotter makes things worse. Anyway, I've wondered about this. I like the idea of putting down a towel, and I agree that pea gravel is better than foam for landing feet down. For landing flat on my back, I might prefer foam though. The best strategy for a climber might be to practice landings. |  FLAG |
By Finn the Human From The Land of Ooo Sep 30, 2012
| Jon, you have to take into consideration the overall size of the object/person falling. A 100 lb bag of sand is going to be a lot more dense than a 100 lb climber. In the case of a falling person, you aren't trying to change the path of their entire body. It should be totally possible to divert someone's head or shoulders towards a pad. |  FLAG |
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